Author Topic: Hurdy, RedRobin, Rob-MK5, other hard-core tuners, I have a question for you.  (Read 27054 times)

Offline Rob-MK5

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I have been driving remapped 335s on and off the last 6 months great cars very fast midrange power when you need it,
very smooth and built great.

I just find it more fun making something unique to yourself, i just like the size, backgroud and theme of the Golf GTi,

Even though the E92s i get to drive are alittle different (i even helped design the aero package) just still not the same as a Vee Dub  :cool:








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....Rob - Those Beemers are automotive porn! They're gorgeous.

However, we all know that our individual choices when choosing cars are so irrational. Actually, not just in cars! :wink:
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Hi Peskarik, great to have you back on here :cool:

I never really considered myself a "hardcore" tuner at all.  :shocked:

I love VW's in all their forms, be they air cooled classics or modern street cars, stock or modified. Basically I'm just a bit of a petrolhead.

I've never really thought about having a good go at modifying a car until this one. Sure I've had remaps, aftermarket wheels, the odd bodykit and exhaust, but never thought about creating a balanced FWD hatchback until I got my grubby mitts on the ED30  :evil:

My dad (god rest him) loved his cars and always tinkered with them, he started me off young and I was taken to the Earl's Court British motorshow from being eight years old. He bequeathed me some money in his will and so this ended up being sidelined for the ED30. If you like, it meant I was doing it as a bit of a remembrance to him.

The ED30 itself will never be as adaptable as a rear wheel or 4WD sportscar and I know that, having done quite a few supercar trackdays and rallying days. What I set out to do was try and make my FWD hatchback as good and as balanced as I could make it in my eyes. This doesn't mean it will necessarily be everyone's cup of tea, but as long as I end up happy then I will have achieved my aim. I'm not just speaking about handling and power, I'm also talking about how the car looks and even sounds. I don't want to end up with a bewinged monster with 25 amps and 30 speakers, I am after an optimal balance.

The sound system isn't really the best, so I asked professional advice on a good balanced set up that would provide a good, clear, defined sound along with an easy to use head unit that had all the functionality that I would use (bluetooth, satnav, IPOD, reverse camera etc) and that didn't look too aftermarket.

The power of the ED30 as standard is plenty for most, but I wanted to see just how far the envelope of the car could be pushed without having to resort to a big turbo conversion. Realistically I would say that 320bhp is about where the balance of the car lies when combined with other modifications like suspension and brakes.

You simply cannot have upgraded power in the ED30 and expect it to simply adapt itself and remain a balanced car. The brakes for me are an integral part of the ability of a car and by adding over 70bhp you have to upgrade the brakes if you are going to utilise this power. Similarly the suspension, it is very good on the standard car, but it can be improved on, ARB's and coilovers or uprated springs and dampers will have a benefit.

Visually a car is going to be developed to the owners own likes and everyone is different. For me I like a visual alteration to look either performance related or OEM+ and so carbon fibre is obviously performance related when utilised correctly and the headlights look OEM unless I turn on the DRL's.

I could just go out and buy a sportscar/supercar if I wanted, but that isn't the point. For me it is all about individualism and making a car your own and for that the VW scene and particularly the Golf is one of the best ways of expressing it, and for that I'm grateful.

I hope this goes some way to explaining my fetish for modifying my car Peskarik. :cool:


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Oh Peskarik, forgot to mention, one of the area reps at my place bought a 335i a while ago and it is a really well balanced car. If you get one and give it a remap you will definitely need better brakes!! I was a little shocked how slow it was to pull up when compared to mine even with the beemer still stock. On a twisty B road a FWD ED30 (mine!) can keep up with it quite easily, on a track I'd say that the beemer when remapped and with better brakes would be a more balanced car.

If I had to choose between my car and a stock 335i (roughly same prices), I'd choose mine all day. :wink:
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Offline Pirelli_P

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Interesting thread! Thought id add my input,

Having worked at BMW and experienced a number of their cars first hand, I do have a special place and deep seated appreciation for them. Before placing my order for my Pirelli I considered a 123d sport hatch and a 123d coupe. However the price came to more than I was in a position to afford, however nice a car they are. I think in terms of bang for your bucks you can't really beat the GTI and I can't wait to get my hands on it. In my view I wouldn't want to buy a BMW on a budget as I have very set views on what spec I would have (M-sport, wheels, options), scraping to get a half hearted model IMO is almost waisted money, so I would rather wait till a couple of years until im really in a position to buy a car such as a 335. A car like that would prob also suit a more mature driver in any case and I think being 22 I would look a bit of a pretentious t*t if i was cruising in one at this time of life. I think one needs to have the joy of a hot hatch at some point in their life, but ultimately for me, the 335i/d coupe body shape is second to none, the engines like the GTI are v impressive, the quality is impeccable and the desirability is there too.

Im sure for those people who like to mod their cars then heaven knows how rapid it would be, as in stock form, im pretty sure iv done a little wee under full acceleration as it is! haha  :evil: Plus those autovogue conversions are down right ludicrously good looking and it'd almost be rude not to get one!?

All in all both are quality cars, but both are completely different and I guess it depends what kind of thrill you're after?

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I still do not see why you would buy a 335 over a Cayman S


I do not like that lizard, whatever performance it has. Now, a new 911 in white - that would be a hoot. But too expensive for me.

I am not aiming for the biggest performance, I am not partial to M5, for example.

I feel emotional bond to 335i, I like its exterior, interior is fine (I do not need leather or navigation system), engine is great. Performance is great already from the factory. Little tuning to 360hp would provide all the performance I will ever need.
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Offline Vtec Abuser

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Nice to see you back Peskarik  :wink:.
Can't say there is anything wrong with a 335i, very nice motors indeed. I myself would probably go with the 135i instead though, but that's just me..
AFAIK the 135i/335i engine has still not been remapped by anybody and the tuning upgrades come from a piggyback chip.. (this may have changed in the last few months of course). But even with the piggyback chip, I don't think the 335i would be leaving a modded (320bhp) Ed30 in the distance mate. Not until very high speeds anyway.. It may have 40bhp more, but also has 1/4 tonne more pies to carry around..  :wink:. But as for the whole package, then it's in a different class of course. But that's reflected in it's price..  :wink:
God luck with it though mate and make sure you let us know which way you go..

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....And we'd enjoy seeing pics, Peskarik, even if it's not a VDub :afro:
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tuning is a bit strange some times imho

spend 24k on a golf  then another 6k on mods

and for that you could buy a 2 year old low miles 300BHp Porsche Cayman S which will do more MPg, will do 172 Mph, 12 seconds to 100Mph will hold more Value and looks better.

its a strange world.

and no matter if a golf has 320Bhp its not going to drive past a Cayman S in a straight or the corners.
a turbo is no match for a 171 Mph Car and Cubic Inches always wins.
I'm pretty sure a 320bhp ED30 would give a Cayman S allsorts of trouble acceleration wise. Judging by how they fair against Carrera S'.. Of course the Cayman will come past eventually due to it's CC's and better aerodynamics, but the speed in which it would eventually go past would need to be done on a very long runway and wouldn't fancy trying it on the road.. :shocked: (ie 150+)
Wouldn't fancy my chances against one round a track though..  :grin:

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