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KW Coilover
« on: 16 August 2008, 13:51 »
Guy's i'm seriously thinking about pressing the buy button on these.

http://www.kw-suspension.co.uk/variant-2.htm

Iv'e got a couple of question's first. I would like to wind them down to something close to this, Rob's oldin  :drool:




Now if i go this low does it therefore mean i have to have the dampening fairly stiff to avoid scuffing the arche's when cornering hard or encountering poor roads ie potholes.
Next question, i am happy with the current dampening on the car, but i dont mind going a bit stiffer, my car is not really my daily drive. So bearing in mind all of the above and i decide to go stiffer will this damage the car long term ie bit's coming loose and falling off. I know i could go around the car periodically with a spanner and check bit's but i am not likely to do this in the real world. Any advice from people who have ran coil's or indeed a stiffer suspension for a couple of year's would be apreciate'd  :kiss:
 And finally anybody know a cheap place to get these iv'e done a quick search and found them for about £850 delivere'd, Thank's in advance for the help.  :wink:

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Re: KW Coilover
« Reply #1 on: 16 August 2008, 17:31 »
I ran the eibach coilovers for 8 months on my ED30 with no issues at all once I'd sorted the front arch liners. There is very little difference in ride and the control is so much better. O yes nothin fell off either :laugh:
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Re: KW Coilover
« Reply #2 on: 16 August 2008, 19:16 »
I ran the eibach coilovers for 8 months on my ED30 with no issues at all once I'd sorted the front arch liners. There is very little difference in ride and the control is so much better. O yes nothin fell off either :laugh:

That's good to hear Gaz :grin: At least I know my filling will stay in then :cool:
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Re: KW Coilover
« Reply #3 on: 01 September 2008, 12:28 »
Guy's i'm seriously thinking about pressing the buy button on these.

http://www.kw-suspension.co.uk/variant-2.htm

Iv'e got a couple of question's first. I would like to wind them down to something close to this, Rob's oldin  :drool:




Now if i go this low does it therefore mean i have to have the dampening fairly stiff to avoid scuffing the arche's when cornering hard or encountering poor roads ie potholes.
Next question, i am happy with the current dampening on the car, but i dont mind going a bit stiffer, my car is not really my daily drive. So bearing in mind all of the above and i decide to go stiffer will this damage the car long term ie bit's coming loose and falling off. I know i could go around the car periodically with a spanner and check bit's but i am not likely to do this in the real world. Any advice from people who have ran coil's or indeed a stiffer suspension for a couple of year's would be apreciate'd  :kiss:
 And finally anybody know a cheap place to get these iv'e done a quick search and found them for about £850 delivere'd, Thank's in advance for the help.  :wink:
MR TT could i have your valued advice on this please i know bits aint going to fall off but i remember you mentioning about slight changes to the front of the aerodynamics affecting the dsg so in weighing up the pro's and con's of getting coilovers and lowering the car what long term affects will fitting these have.  :kiss:

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Re: KW Coilover
« Reply #4 on: 01 September 2008, 12:38 »
ive had mine on for about 4 months, had to sort the arches out at first but its all gravy now  :cool: oh and nothing has fallen off  :grin: but the rears do creek ocasionally  :smiley:

i think that coilies are the main mod i would do to all my cars, even better than a re-map imo  :cool: :smiley:

oh and i have eibachs


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Re: KW Coilover
« Reply #5 on: 01 September 2008, 12:49 »
ive had mine on for about 4 months, had to sort the arches out at first but its all gravy now  :cool: oh and nothing has fallen off  :grin: but the rears do creek ocasionally  :smiley:

i think that coilies are the main mod i would do to all my cars, even better than a re-map imo  :cool: :smiley:

oh and i have eibachs
I am defo going suspension and brakes first but a lot of mod's have a knock on affect on other parts i dont mind if the stiffer suspension set up means i have to keep my eye on other part's i just want to be aware of such thing's.
If by lowering the front of the car by 30 mil affects the DSG long term and shorten's its life in someway then i want to know about it.  :sad:

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Re: KW Coilover
« Reply #6 on: 01 September 2008, 12:53 »
nobody has experienced that aerodynamic thing i dont think, i believe its TTs theory  :smiley: :smiley:


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Re: KW Coilover
« Reply #7 on: 01 September 2008, 18:43 »
Guy's i'm seriously thinking about pressing the buy button on these.

http://www.kw-suspension.co.uk/variant-2.htm

Nice, quality German kit.  Very highly regarded.

One issue though, dependent on type of coilover, and the type of car they go on - some of the damping adjusters will not be accessable once fitted.  That means that if you want to change the damper settings, then you may need to partially dismantle certain parts of the suspension to access them.  Now I don't know if it was specific to these particular KWs, or if it applied to the Golf.  I have a gut feeling that the multi-link front end on longitudinal Audis (A4/A5/A6/A8) and Volkswagens (Passat B4/B5 and the Phaeton) were particularly troublesome in this respect.  Therefore, I suggest you e-mail the supplier with a clear question regarding acessability regarding ALL the adjusters when fitted to the car.

Iv'e got a couple of question's first. I would like to wind them down to something close to this, Rob's oldin  :drool:


That's nice.  Is that someone from this forum?

Now if i go this low does it therefore mean i have to have the dampening fairly stiff to avoid scuffing the arche's when cornering hard or encountering poor roads ie potholes.

Not necessarily, because both the damper rates and the spring rates should ideally be increased over the standard spring and damper rates.

Next question, i am happy with the current dampening on the car, but i dont mind going a bit stiffer, my car is not really my daily drive. So bearing in mind all of the above and i decide to go stiffer will this damage the car long term ie bit's coming loose and falling off. I know i could go around the car periodically with a spanner and check bit's but i am not likely to do this in the real world. Any advice from people who have ran coil's or indeed a stiffer suspension for a couple of year's would be apreciate'd  :kiss:

Well, I've had a number of cars over the years with very "stiff" suspension.  My last B6 S4 and my current RS4 don't leave a trail of bits in the road when I run over cats eyes - and I run 48psi in the front of the RS4!!!!  :wink:  :grin:  The wifes previous Astra had the standard "sport" suspension, but I fitted 17" rims with very low profile tyres (for a car of its time), and nowt dropped off that.  The only car/s I ever had problems with were two Vectra GSi's - utter bags of shyte really - with all the rear bushes and steering rack going tits up - cause Vauxhall the tight bast@rds refused to "uprate" the vitals to cope with the considerably stiffer springs and dampers.

So, on a dub, I very much doubt you'll encounter any problems.  What you probably will notice, though, is that suspension bushes will not last as long, as say those on a Golf 1.6 SDI.  The harder or stiffer the suspension, the more "strain" it will put on other components, particularly rubber bushes and ball joints.  I hasten to add that it probably wont be a huge reduction in the life of the bushes - instead of the standard suspension set-up making the bushes last say 100k miles, "harder" suspension may reduce that to maybe 60k miles - a resonable trade-off in my HO.

And finally anybody know a cheap place to get these iv'e done a quick search and found them for about £850 delivere'd, Thank's in advance for the help.  :wink:

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Re: KW Coilover
« Reply #8 on: 01 September 2008, 18:44 »
I ran the eibach coilovers for 8 months on my ED30 with no issues at all once I'd sorted the front arch liners.

Was that just the single screw at the top-most section of the wheel arch?
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Re: KW Coilover
« Reply #9 on: 01 September 2008, 18:48 »
certainly was :smiley:
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