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Offline Ess_Three

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Re: Chip or re-map?
« Reply #60 on: 03 October 2010, 19:34 »

Glad you said that cos I was thinking of getting hold of a 4 bar FPR. Glad I didn't now then.

I tried it on both my 16v and S3...and it screwed up the fuelling in both cases.

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Re: Chip or re-map?
« Reply #61 on: 03 October 2010, 19:48 »
The best person to ask is Glen (ess_three), our no.1 engineer on here  :smiley:

I'm no expert!
I've just been down the road of buying all the crap that is supposed to make a big differnce...only to find it doesn't do anything.
I've spent thousands finding out the hard way.

The bottom line is: There is no cheap fix.
ABFs do not make  170+ BHP by just looking at them.
They were not 'strangled' by VW to only make 150BHP...so don't go looking for an easy 20 BHP.
They do not make 190+ BHP without spending many thousands on good old fashoined engineering solutions to the same problems every other engine has.
...and if you chase 200+ BHP, you'll find much of the so called 'good kit' doesn't fit...so you'll have to engineer it yourself.

Thank god someone with some sense.

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Re: Chip or re-map?
« Reply #62 on: 03 October 2010, 20:08 »
Amen to that.

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Re: Chip or re-map?
« Reply #63 on: 03 October 2010, 20:09 »

Glad you said that cos I was thinking of getting hold of a 4 bar FPR. Glad I didn't now then.

I tried it on both my 16v and S3...and it screwed up the fuelling in both cases.

hmmmm


what if i was to run it on smaller tyres? :laugh: :laugh:

seriously tho - thanks for your reply.  saved me a few quid, thanks you very much, that will go in the remap kitty :wink:
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Re:Chip or re-map?
« Reply #64 on: 03 October 2010, 20:57 »
Milltek Exhaust, basic PiperX induction and remap got me from 115bhp (2.0 8v) to 142bhp... remaps work.

Unfortunamtely I took mine to AmD for the remap and it had been done already... they still RR'd it for free and gave me all the graphs...




Sorry to Thread jack :( But how much did that cost to get it all done?
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Re:Chip or re-map?
« Reply #65 on: 03 October 2010, 21:11 »
Milltek Exhaust, basic PiperX induction and remap got me from 115bhp (2.0 8v) to 142bhp... remaps work.

Unfortunamtely I took mine to AmD for the remap and it had been done already... they still RR'd it for free and gave me all the graphs...




Sorry to Thread jack :( But how much did that cost to get it all done?

It was 6 years ago  :rolleyes: however no way on this earth did a remap, exhaust and filter gain that much extra power.

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Re:Chip or re-map?
« Reply #66 on: 03 October 2010, 22:54 »
Milltek Exhaust, basic PiperX induction and remap got me from 115bhp (2.0 8v) to 142bhp... remaps work.

Unfortunamtely I took mine to AmD for the remap and it had been done already... they still RR'd it for free and gave me all the graphs...




Sorry to Thread jack :( But how much did that cost to get it all done?

It was 6 years ago  :rolleyes: however no way on this earth did a remap, exhaust and filter gain that much extra power.

 :grin: What you on about Wayne??  :huh:

Zorst, filter and remap, gotta be talking 250bhp+  :rolleyes:

In all seriousness tho, some of the figures in this thread are so massively exagerated its actually laughable  :laugh:

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Re:Chip or re-map?
« Reply #67 on: 04 October 2010, 01:27 »
Milltek Exhaust, basic PiperX induction and remap got me from 115bhp (2.0 8v) to 142bhp... remaps work.

Unfortunamtely I took mine to AmD for the remap and it had been done already... they still RR'd it for free and gave me all the graphs...




Sorry to Thread jack :( But how much did that cost to get it all done?

It was 6 years ago  :rolleyes: however no way on this earth did a remap, exhaust and filter gain that much extra power.

 :grin: What you on about Wayne??  :huh:

Zorst, filter and remap, gotta be talking 250bhp+  :rolleyes:

In all seriousness tho, some of the figures in this thread are so massively exagerated its actually laughable  :laugh:

oh cool that must mean that my 1.8t is making like 330bhp  :shocked: :grin: :laugh:

Also consider not just the top bhp numbers but how it gets there, the mid range is easy to get power from on those cars, and thats where you drive them most of the time. youre not gonna be using all the bhp of the car much at all unless you are racing it
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Re:Chip or re-map?
« Reply #68 on: 04 October 2010, 08:35 »

Also consider not just the top bhp numbers but how it gets there, the mid range is easy to get power from on those cars, and thats where you drive them most of the time. youre not gonna be using all the bhp of the car much at all unless you are racing it

Most decent re-chips for the 16v will only give 4-6 NHP peak...but are capable of giving 10+ BHP midrange, so they feel faster than the peak power suggests.

But, with all 16v engines, you have to be prepared to use all the revs, all the time.
I hit my 7300PM limiter every day I drive mine...you have to, if you want all the 'go'.

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Re:Chip or re-map?
« Reply #69 on: 04 October 2010, 08:52 »

Also consider not just the top bhp numbers but how it gets there, the mid range is easy to get power from on those cars, and thats where you drive them most of the time. youre not gonna be using all the bhp of the car much at all unless you are racing it

Most decent re-chips for the 16v will only give 4-6 NHP peak...but are capable of giving 10+ BHP midrange, so they feel faster than the peak power suggests.

But, with all 16v engines, you have to be prepared to use all the revs, all the time.
I hit my 7300PM limiter every day I drive mine...you have to, if you want all the 'go'.


shocking :shocked: whats your mpg like? :evil:
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