your opinions on the DSG?

[KentBladeboy]

 

[182_blue]

i tried the DSG box but just didnt get on with it, i havnt driven to many Autos but i didnt find the DSG much better than any other Auto's i have driven, i was quite suprised after all the good reviews i heard about it

oh and the wife absolutely hated it, the only condition she put on the purchase was that i dont by an Auto !

[RedRobin]

In my eyes a gearbox which decideds when to change up/down a gear for you..... IS AN AUTOMATIC!!!!

There is simply no hiding behind any other facts.. you are NOT in full control

....Fair enough if you don't like DSG, but I think your post suggests you may be misunderstanding the DSG system. Whenever you are in M-mode (M for Manual) you the driver are in complete control of which gear you want to be in. It's only in D and S-modes that gearshifts are automatically done.

That's the point - The DSG is the best of both worlds and offers you all the options and combinations of them to suit the road circumstances and your mood.

[R32UK]

In my eyes a gearbox which decideds when to change up/down a gear for you..... IS AN AUTOMATIC!!!!

There is simply no hiding behind any other facts.. you are NOT in full control

....Fair enough if you don't like DSG, but I think your post suggests you may be misunderstanding the DSG system. Whenever you are in M-mode (M for Manual) you the driver are in complete control of which gear you want to be in. It's only in D and S-modes that gearshifts are automatically done.

That's the point - The DSG is the best of both worlds and offers you all the options and combinations of them to suit the road circumstances and your mood.

Regardless of which mode you are in.. would i be correct in saying it will change gear if you put the go pedal to the floor???

And would i be correct in saying it will change down for you if you stomp on the brake??

[Phil mcavity]

r32uk, how can you possibly compare a manual to a dsg, if you asking "does it change down when you come to a stop" or "change up when you floor it", you obviously havent used a dsg??

so surely you cannot post comments about a manual being better if you have never used it by asking questions like that???

i really dont follow now?.

[R32UK]

r32uk, how can you possibly compare a manual to a dsg, if you asking "does it change down when you come to a stop" or "change up when you floor it", you obviously havent used a dsg??

so surely you cannot post comments about a manual being better if you have never used it by asking questions like that???

i really dont follow now?.

I never said stop. I have driven the dsg and it was these little things that annoyed me. I like to know what gear I am in.... even in M mode the dsg still did the changing for me. So what is the difference between auto and M mode??? Because i really didnt notice any


I just though you dsg owners might be able to clarify, as nearly every dsg owner on here seems to rave on about how great it is. I just thought it would be a good idea to highlight some of the problems found with DSG. Judging by some of the reviews (EVo especially) they took a very keen dislike to the DSG and stated how clumsy it was at low speeds.

[orca]

I think that you can only qualify to slag something off after you have experienced it for a long time.  The DSG takes time to get used to it.  A test drive won't give you the opportunity to experience it to the full.  It took me a couple of months before I started to get a feel for using it properly.  I was driving it exclusively in D mode for the first month while I was running it in.  Like I said before, I thought that I had made a mistake getting the DSG when I first started trying it in manual mode as it felt so different and difficult.  I couldn't do without it now.

It does change down for you in manual mode if you slow right down but then I don't mind, as slowing right down is not part of driving that I enjoy! 

I know how much to floor it so that it doesn't change down for me.  Again I don't mind it changing down for me.  It's another option for the driver, either click it down a gear or two, or floor the pedal for the same effect.

Enjoy the car that you have and please don't slag off other peoples choices. 

[R32UK]

Orca im not slagging off DSG. Im just trying to highlight its flaws. Just like the manual which also has its flaws. There was really only posts on here saying how great DSG is and how its a must have. Which to tbh doesnt really give the original poster a clear view of things.

These posts are not really for my benifit or yours as we already have our cars. i just thought it would be good to highlight both sides of the coin.

I had to drive my dads car for 3 months (auto) hated it at first. By third month I was used to it. When I got back into mine... strangly enough even that felt strange. You quickly become acustomed to what you have to live with... but for me its manual all the way... there simply is no substitute.

[orca]

R32UK, I know where you're coming from.  People tend to highly rate something that they own (myself included).

I know how 'connected' driving a manual car is.  You feel that you are part of the mechanics of the car when you press the clutch with your leg/foot and slot the gear stick into gear with your arm/hand then let go of the clutch and floor the accelerator with your other leg/foot.  That sensation is lost with DSG.  It's all in the fingers (and one foot)!

I honestly don't have many bad words to say about the DSG.  It does offer many driving options.  If you feel lazy then you can drive it in D or S mode.

The only bad things that I can think of is that there is sometimes what appears to be a slight delay in changing gear from when you press the up paddle.  I think it depends on what revs you are at when you change gear.  The gear is shown as changed but the engine doesn't change note for a split second.  Also changing down to second gear can sometimes be juddery.  It seems to slow right down.  Not sure if that's the case with everyone or it's just my car in which case I need to get it looked at! 

They are not big issues for me though.

[Max Q]

@R32UK

As others have stated - you ARE in control of what gear you are in when in manual tiptronic mode. The box will only automatically change to protect itself if it reaches the lower and upper RPM limits. If you drive it within the RPM limits (i.e stall RPM to Red Line) the DSG WILL NOT shift for you. You can also stop it downshifting at the kickdown if you so wish.

DSG is by far and away the most versitile transmission system you can get.