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Offline jv

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #411 on: 11 May 2004, 22:42 »
 :o :o :o

i think im in love  :)

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #412 on: 12 May 2004, 22:02 »
Sort of pisses all over the vr6 convertions dun'it  !!  ;D

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #413 on: 12 May 2004, 22:07 »
jst a little bit!!!  ;D :D


btw where the hells black_gti aint heard of him 4 ages, think vr6 must hav kidnapped him!  :D

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #414 on: 12 May 2004, 22:42 »
he has changed his name to cupra turbo hasnt he?

anythings better than a mk3 8valver!

that r32 engine in a mk2 is just amazing!
wonder how randomjords s4 engine in to a mk2 project thing is going on?????? :D

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #415 on: 12 May 2004, 23:54 »
Would like a once-only chip in:-

The cam shaft profiles on 8v give higher lift. Result is more torque low down, lower rev limit ( valve chatter due to valve springs being compressed more due to higher lift cam ) and slightly more erratic idle.

The cam shaft profiles on 16v give lower lift. Result is more torque higher up, higher rev limit ( less valve chatter due to valve springs being compressed less due to lower lift cam ) and smoother idle.

Yes 16v will breathe better because - simply - there are twice as many holes in the head! But it doesn't necessarily mean more power.

I own both, you can tell the 8v has more torque because it picks up superb from 20mph in 5th gear whereas the 16v struggles a little.

For performance, the 16v will beat the 8v but not by as much as you would like to think. You would need to change gear in an 8v around 5000 whereas in a 16v it would be 6000. Yes, the 16v would beat the 8v easily if both versions changed gear at, say, 6000. Yes, the difference would be marginal if both cars changed gear at 4500.

For town driving, I prefer the 8v less gear change and more forgiving.
For motorway, I prefer the 8v better 50-70 in same gear.
For rain/snow, I prefer the 16v better & progressive control over power.
For bendy country lanes, I prefer the 16v driving between 4000-6000 revs longer legs on 3rd gear with late braking.
For hill climbs, I prefer the 16v. You definitely notice the difference between the 2 models!!

BTW I rally Saabs as a hobby. Essentially what I'm driving at is that the 2 models come into their own in certain driving conditions N/M.


marcus123

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #416 on: 13 May 2004, 00:18 »
thats what i was saying earlier on in the thread, but people were just not listening. ;) :D

both great cars tho,
the 8valve a bit greater tho ;)

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #417 on: 13 May 2004, 08:19 »
nice to hear from someone who has both models!

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #418 on: 13 May 2004, 11:15 »
thats what i was saying earlier on in the thread, but people were just not listening. ;) :D

both great cars tho,
the 8valve a bit greater tho ;)


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comon marcus your a bit boring now :P

obviously you prefer town driving to fast country lanes so the 8v is a better car for you.

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #419 on: 13 May 2004, 15:44 »
Im officially an 8v hater now, im gunna blow that piece of sh!t up if it ever gets back to my house! nuthin but problems with it, on tuesday i got it back from the garage after havin the Headgasket/bolts/all little sh!t that goes with it/cambelt/that random housing on the front of the engine an 2.5million sensors changed at alot of cost an the f**kin thing wont drive proper now! itl start up......then as soon as i take my foot off the accelerator itl die! i really dont want the car anymore but it owes me so much money, anyone sellin a cheap 16v?
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