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Offline Hurdy

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Re: Show or stealth?
« Reply #20 on: 30 January 2008, 15:33 »

IMO, I really like Stealth installs where everything is hidden with a few perspex 'windows'.  :cool:

Does anyone know the speaker sizes for the GTi?  Ive had a search and cant find any information, especially for the rear ones?   :huh:

Hurdy, which size were the ones that you dropped into the front doors on your ED30?

Ta!  :smiley:

6" woofer, 3" mid and 1" tweeters up front.

6" coax in rear.

10" sub in the boot

Look on the link below for the Hertz products. They are really good quality speakers :cool:

http://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/default_en.htm
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Re: Show or stealth?
« Reply #21 on: 30 January 2008, 15:39 »
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Brilliant, thanks Hurdy! 

My budget probably wont stretch to a new headunit yet (my service is costing £230.30  :sick:)

Will the hertz speakers sound much better than the standard ones with the stock headunit? 
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Re: Show or stealth?
« Reply #22 on: 30 January 2008, 16:28 »
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Will the hertz speakers sound much better than the standard ones with the stock headunit? 

Where do I start?!?

The sound is in a different league to the stock items. Less noise interference, better range, more separation and clarity of frequencies. Even the Bose system I had in the Audi doesn't come close to the quality of sound that the system I have now gives. My system isn't the loudest you can get, but the sound is perfectly balanced and with a high quality track it sounds virtually like live music.
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Re: Show or stealth?
« Reply #23 on: 30 January 2008, 22:19 »
were these a direct replacement Hurdy? if so do you have the part numbers u used and prices pal
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Re: Show or stealth?
« Reply #24 on: 30 January 2008, 23:32 »

IMO, I really like Stealth installs where everything is hidden with a few perspex 'windows'.  :cool:

Does anyone know the speaker sizes for the GTi?  Ive had a search and cant find any information, especially for the rear ones?   :huh:

Hurdy, which size were the ones that you dropped into the front doors on your ED30?

Ta!  :smiley:

6" woofer, 3" mid and 1" tweeters up front.

6" coax in rear.

10" sub in the boot

Look on the link below for the Hertz products. They are really good quality speakers :cool:

http://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/default_en.htm

Yeah Hurdy... Could You Please Give Me More Info On The Speakers... As This Is Something I Really Am Interested In Doing.  :grin:

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Re: Show or stealth?
« Reply #25 on: 30 January 2008, 23:37 »
were these a direct replacement Hurdy? if so do you have the part numbers u used and prices pal

Right then

Components up front the best set up is a 3 way of which I had the HSK163 (£300), but for my car it involved extra wiring in of the third speaker (tweeter). The extra wiring wouldn't be needed if you have the 10 speaker system which already has tweeters up front. Alternatively, if you have the 8 speaker standard system you could go for the 2 way component system up front which is the HSK165. The loss of the tweeters up front with the 2 way aren't too crucial as you would still have the high frequencies of a tweeter in the rear with the coax speakers.

In the rear the speakers I had fitted were 2 way coax's - HCX165's with a 200 Watt peak output :cool:
One speaker housing contains both a woofer and the tweeter. - £120

This gets around one of the problems that the standard rear tweeters have, in that they are located just behind the drivers's ears and give an annoying tsss tsss noise at higher volumes. The coax speakers are based where the lower rear standard woofers normally are and drop the high pitch of the tweeters away from your ears to give a better balance to the high frequency output.

You can look at the speakers through the earlier link I posted under the Hi-energy range, by looking in the system and the coax sections.

The 10" sub in the boot is a 900 watt HX 250D - £165


Up to date prices and distributer is in the link below.

http://www.sextonsdirect.co.uk/search_keyword.asp?stext=hertz&posted=1&scat=10&nobox=true&PARTNER=Adwords&gclid=CMrykNmNn5ECFQtBMAodm0qLuA

Hope this info is what you want. :smiley:
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Re: Show or stealth?
« Reply #26 on: 30 January 2008, 23:42 »
were these a direct replacement Hurdy? if so do you have the part numbers u used and prices pal

Right then

Components up front the best set up is a 3 way of which I had the HSK163 (£300), but for my car it involved extra wiring in of the third speaker (tweeter). The extra wiring wouldn't be needed if you have the 10 speaker system which already has tweeters up front. Alternatively, if you have the 8 speaker standard system you could go for the 2 way component system up front which is the HSK165. The loss of the tweeters up front with the 2 way aren't too crucial as you would still have the high frequencies of a tweeter in the rear with the coax speakers.

In the rear the speakers I had fitted were 2 way coax's - HCX165's with a 200 Watt peak output :cool:
One speaker housing contains both a woofer and the tweeter. - £120

This gets around one of the problems that the standard rear tweeters have, in that they are located just behind the drivers's ears and give an annoying tsss tsss noise at higher volumes. The coax speakers are based where the lower rear standard woofers normally are and drop the high pitch of the tweeters away from your ears to give a better balance to the high frequency output.

You can look at the speakers through the earlier link I posted under the Hi-energy range, by looking in the system and the coax sections.

The 10" sub in the boot is a 900 watt HX 250D - £165


Up to date prices and distributer is in the link below.

http://www.sextonsdirect.co.uk/search_keyword.asp?stext=hertz&posted=1&scat=10&nobox=true&PARTNER=Adwords&gclid=CMrykNmNn5ECFQtBMAodm0qLuA

Hope this info is what you want. :smiley:


Thank You For Your Help Hurdy... :grin:

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Re: Show or stealth?
« Reply #27 on: 30 January 2008, 23:51 »

IMO, I really like Stealth installs where everything is hidden with a few perspex 'windows'.  :cool:

Does anyone know the speaker sizes for the GTi?  Ive had a search and cant find any information, especially for the rear ones?   :huh:

Hurdy, which size were the ones that you dropped into the front doors on your ED30?

Ta!  :smiley:



6" woofer, 3" mid and 1" tweeters up front.

6" coax in rear.

10" sub in the boot

Look on the link below for the Hertz products. They are really good quality speakers :cool:

http://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/default_en.htm

Yeah Hurdy... Could You Please Give Me More Info On The Speakers... As This Is Something I Really Am Interested In Doing.  :grin:

Do You Need To Change The Head Unit??... In My Case The Sat Nav... Or Does It Work Wit The Original Head Unit

I deliberately didn't spec up the standard head unit as I knew I was going to change it. You could use the standard sat nav unit, but I wouldn't. The reason being that the VW head units use Digital sound processing which is set to allow for the shortcomings of the VW speakers. The VW speakers are made down to a very cheap price and as such have poor volume and frequency handling characteristics (when compared to aftermarket speakers). The VW head units allow for these poor characteristics and so when you fit upgraded aftermarket speakers they are basically handicapped by the VW head units DSP system and don't give their best outputs. To truly get the best output from aftermarket front component speakers, you need to have an amplifier fitted. If you run them off the head unit then they will also be underpowered and not give their full potential.

I didn't want millions of speakers in the boot and so simply opted for one decent sub that has a good low frequency response and a decent power output. This also meant that I could power the one sub and the front speakers from a 4 way amp rather than having to fit two dedicated amps (which I thought would be overkill). The result means that the front speakers are fully powered and with the aftermarket head unit also gives better sound control. :nerd:
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Re: Show or stealth?
« Reply #28 on: 31 January 2008, 09:29 »
I must be getting old.... (29)  :rolleyes: because I don't see the point of adding a few hundred kilos of amp and mdf bassboxes to a car designed to be quick, nimble and fun to drive.

Surely that just defeats the object?
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Re: Show or stealth?
« Reply #29 on: 31 January 2008, 16:12 »
I must be getting old.... (29)  :rolleyes: because I don't see the point of adding a few hundred kilos of amp and mdf bassboxes to a car designed to be quick, nimble and fun to drive.

Surely that just defeats the object?

I had the sound system already in the car when I went to Inters last year and it still did 0-60 in 5.66 secs :cool: before the remap.
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