GTI or CL?????

[VeeDubGTI16v]

youre still a mouthy T W A T tho

[Cupra Turbo]

cool eh.  

[vixteris]

I wasnt around in 1976 ... my brother was born then tho LOL

and if u read the what happened in the early 90's u'll read summet along the lines of

"with insurance premiums on hot hatches going thru the roof and the sales of hot hatches dropping, something need to be done, and this was VW's answer, to produce a same powered car as the previous mark but add more equipment, making it heavier and therefore slightly slower, but also reducing premiums because of airbags, immobilisers etc. ... the "hot hatch" days have now died off .. with the likes of the mk2 16v golf and XR2"

summet like that ... its not 1986 anymore.

so black are u telling me that

1)your car is slow
2) vw did it deliberately
3) its the best excuse u could find

[Cupra Turbo]

nope, actually what i wrote was summet i found awhile back ... it was a website reviewing all the old hot hatches

205 GTI 1.9
106 GTI
Clio Williams
Astra GSI 16v
Golf mk2 16v

etc ... and thats basically what they wrote... i just couldnt be assed looking for the exact quote.

[vixteris]

well maybe im getting my wires crossed, i cant be bothered with the same old crap and so will no longer join in the 1/2 gti versus 3 gti debate.  at the end of the day the m3 gti was a dissapointment compared to the old marks and if u cant see the efforts vw made to rectify the problem with the newer models then its not worth me wasting my typing skills  

[Cupra Turbo]

Vw made no effort...

1.8 none turbo GTI?

2.0 8v in the mk4 (even heavier)

150bhp V5  ... (V5 = heavier by 50kg over 1.8, which is 50kg heavier than 2.0)

. ... yep .. loadsa effort ... they released a VR6 ... and a 16v ... and the 16v didnt set the roadsa alight ... its "manufacturers book" time is 8.7secs.

[iball]

Black GTi - will you just give up spouting all this b0ll0cks, everytime I see one of these threads I notice that you quote a different 0-60 figure for your car. Sometimes it's just over 8 seconds sometimes it's just under 10. Why bother, everyone knows that just about every other gti made by VW is quicker than the mk3 8v, in fact I think every other GTi made by anybody is quicker than the mk3 8v.

Just give up, everyone is just winding you up and you bite everytime. You're car is a decent car in it's own right, it's just not fast, live with it.

I'm going to go and get into my nice comfy barge of a mk3 now but at least it has a little bit of poke! Why don't you just go and buy some CL badges.

[Danr]

After reading all of these i wonder why Black CL says im a trouble maker  

[Cupra Turbo]

Im just curious what the top speed of a mk2 8v ... cos technically the mk3 8v is "FASTER" .. IE higher top speed ...

Black GTi - will you just give up spouting all this b0ll0cks, everytime I see one of these threads I notice that you quote a different 0-60 figure for your car. Sometimes it's just over 8 seconds sometimes it's just under 10. Why bother, everyone knows that just about every other gti made by VW is quicker than the mk3 8v, in fact I think every other GTi made by anybody is quicker than the mk3 8v.

cos its quoted differently all over the web...

8.7
9.0
9.7
9.8

... and why are u here? shu shu shu ... away with u  

[Omar]

.................and he still goes on spouting about differences of less than a second. Like it matters!!