GTI or CL?????

[Blue MK2]

f**kin ell, u lot smash it

[tinman]

only a little bit but its a smaller engine  

want more figures?

mk3 8v = 127lb/ft torque
mk2 16v = 121lb/ft torque


.. mk2 8v? lol dont care to know.  

Yup, need more figures.

Looking around this morning and found the Mk3 8v rated at 122lb/ft and the original 16v Mk2 at 123.5lb/ft.

Tin

[richy]

87kg heavier

More torque
More bhp
More safety
More security
More comfort
Bigger alloys
Sexier
More modern


... nuff said.. id sacrifice the 0.4secs to 60 for those extra's  


on a side note

mk1 - mk2 115Kg heavier, same engine.

mk1 = 8.4secs to 60.  ... add 115kg and no extra power ... u aint getting to 60 in under 9secs.  

... and you want to be a moderator!!!

They're all Golf GTIs.  Give it up.

[golfvr6]

The mk2 16v does have 123.5lb ft torque at about 4500rpm, will check the handbook for the mk3 8v.
The fact is the 16v will produce much more torque over the 8v higher up the rev range(even 1.8 16v compared to 2.0 8v), this is critical to performance.

[danhock]

Mr VR6 did you and Black Gti swallow a stats book?

Also why is Black Gti always trying to convince us that hes cars better than everyone elses?

[Cupra Turbo]

Also why is Black Gti always trying to convince us that hes cars better than everyone elses?

Im not saying my car is better than anyone elses ... all Im saying is its not as bad as all u lot make out... and its a GTI ... live with it.

Mr VR6 did you and Black Gti swallow a stats book?

We goto a great cantina...

[Veedubgt18v]

Balck if you knew that half the people were yanking your chain and laughed with us then we would get bored and shut up but until then im never gonna tire of ribbing you!  

[Cupra Turbo]

yea but this banter is just getting me to learn more about cars and stuff ... so im happy to keep learning (about modern engines) and keep this banter going ... u wanna keep slagging the GTI badge off ... fire away  

[VeeDubGTI16v]

what you dont understand is that the gti badge is fine, it just doesnt belong on your car. it should be replaced with a nice cl one. your car is like the driver in the mk2 range

[Cupra Turbo]

All 4 of my GTI badges are fine... and my 9.8secs 0-60 is fine ... and when my Magnex exhaust is fitted on thursday (hopefully) ... ill wait till i use up sum fuel cos im on a full tank ... and ill do the 0-60 run.