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Re: Revo Remap.....
« Reply #20 on: 04 December 2007, 00:16 »
Thanks Robin. Helpful as always.

I just feel abit twitchy about modding the engine and ive been reading stories of people have problems with they clutch, the fuel delivary and the way the torque is applied about 5,000 revs etc etc.

And now my warranty has expired i dont want to mess the engine or any parts up because it would be very costly and if the remap will cause problems then its useless which would mean it would be a waste of money. Thats why i need to be certain.

....Totally understood. I went through exactly the same concerns especially as my GTI is DSG. I concluded after many months of research and talking to all sorts of people, that a remap by one of the well established tuners such as Revo, APR, Bluefin, all of which give aftersales support, would be as safe as possible. Afterall, they have so much to lose if they get it wrong and if only just a few dissatisfied customers start complaining on the car forums and by word of mouth. Look what happened to AmD - they used to have an excellent reputation.

Keep it to Stage1 and you aren't straining the envelope. Maintain your car regularly and fully (oil+filter every 10,000 miles and plugs every 20,000) and you should be alright.
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Re: Revo Remap.....
« Reply #21 on: 04 December 2007, 00:17 »

No it shouldn't. That is the beauty of the APR map. Switch it to the standard map and if VW need to do an upgrade it will only alter that map and not one of the other selectable files. :nerd:

But apparently, Revo always use the latest software from VW and applys that to their remaps so that its better compatibility so the map is always updated.

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Re: Revo Remap.....
« Reply #22 on: 04 December 2007, 00:21 »
Most of my road journeys will be with the map on standard. It will mainly be journeys to trackdays and 1/4 milers that the map will be used.

.... :grin: Famous last words!! I must bookmark this post so I can quote you!

Are you really going to be able to stay stock after you have experienced the remap? Once you have experienced how much more you can both quickly and safely overtake, you'll be suckered in.

How long shall we give Hurdy before he succumbs, guys? :smiley:
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Re: Revo Remap.....
« Reply #23 on: 04 December 2007, 00:21 »

No it shouldn't. That is the beauty of the APR map. Switch it to the standard map and if VW need to do an upgrade it will only alter that map and not one of the other selectable files. :nerd:

But apparently, Revo always use the latest software from VW and applys that to their remaps so that its better compatibility so the map is always updated.

Revo will be overwritten by a VW update in the future if you took it in for a service though. The APR power map wouldn't be affected.
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Re: Revo Remap.....
« Reply #24 on: 04 December 2007, 00:22 »
Most of my road journeys will be with the map on standard. It will mainly be journeys to trackdays and 1/4 milers that the map will be used.

.... :grin: Famous last words!! I must bookmark this post so I can quote you!

Are you really going to be able to stay stock after you have experienced the remap? Once you have experienced how much more you can both quickly and safely overtake, you'll be suckered in.

How long shall we give Hurdy before he succumbs, guys? :smiley:

 :rolleyes: :evil: :embarassed:
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Re: Revo Remap.....
« Reply #25 on: 04 December 2007, 00:25 »

No it shouldn't. That is the beauty of the APR map. Switch it to the standard map and if VW need to do an upgrade it will only alter that map and not one of the other selectable files. :nerd:

But apparently, Revo always use the latest software from VW and applys that to their remaps so that its better compatibility so the map is always updated.

....Just to clarify that. You are both right:

You should always switch to stock map if able so that the VW dealer can download onto an expected status of ECU with far less risk of software conflicts.

I think that Revo aren't the only tuners who recieve VW's ECU updates within days of their release so that they can in turn modify their maps appropriately. These updated remaps are then installed as if for the first time.
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Re: Revo Remap.....
« Reply #26 on: 04 December 2007, 00:26 »
Thanks Robin. Helpful as always.

I just feel abit twitchy about modding the engine and ive been reading stories of people have problems with they clutch, the fuel delivary and the way the torque is applied about 5,000 revs etc etc.

And now my warranty has expired i dont want to mess the engine or any parts up because it would be very costly and if the remap will cause problems then its useless which would mean it would be a waste of money. Thats why i need to be certain.

....Totally understood. I went through exactly the same concerns especially as my GTI is DSG. I concluded after many months of research and talking to all sorts of people, that a remap by one of the well established tuners such as Revo, APR, Bluefin, all of which give aftersales support, would be as safe as possible. Afterall, they have so much to lose if they get it wrong and if only just a few dissatisfied customers start complaining on the car forums and by word of mouth. Look what happened to AmD - they used to have an excellent reputation.

Keep it to Stage1 and you aren't straining the envelope. Maintain your car regularly and fully (oil+filter every 10,000 miles and plugs every 20,000) and you should be alright.

Thanks Robin.

Great advice as always  :smiley:
As your one of the members whose opinion is respect here i think you have turned me. I admit that i am being over the top with this remap but thats to preserve the car.

I think i will get the Revo done and then in the near future get the DV changed. Im not an aggresive driver 80% of the time.
Generally, i always keep it below 3500 - 4000 revs during normal driving which is through the week as it only does around 80miles. During the weekend i sometimes give it the welly but even then it might be just once or twice that it goes past 6,000 revs.

In the past 2 weeks i've only really been aggresive twice. Once was when i took it to 130mph when i was joining a motorway and the other time was when i raced my mates BMW 735 from the lights (which he struggled with keeping up  :smiley:). IF anything the car was being worked to its max for around 60seconds combined from the two episodes i've talked about above. That too me does not suggest im an aggresive driver??

What do you say?
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Re: Revo Remap.....
« Reply #27 on: 04 December 2007, 00:30 »

No it shouldn't. That is the beauty of the APR map. Switch it to the standard map and if VW need to do an upgrade it will only alter that map and not one of the other selectable files. :nerd:

But apparently, Revo always use the latest software from VW and applys that to their remaps so that its better compatibility so the map is always updated.

You should always switch to stock map if able so that the VW dealer can download onto an expected status of ECU with far less risk of software conflicts.


The local Revo tuner has said that when the car goes in for a major service or a software update, VW will flash the software on their which would rule out the remap. The dealer said i would just need to bring the car back and he would reapply the map free of charge

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Re: Revo Remap.....
« Reply #28 on: 04 December 2007, 00:30 »
Revo will be overwritten by a VW update in the future if you took it in for a service though. The APR power map wouldn't be affected.

....Not necessarily in my experience. It depends on the VW update - 24K6 gave problems but others haven't. I would strongly suspect that the APR would only not be potentially effected if it wasn't switched on.

It's no problem if you've got switchability anyway - Just switch to stock map for all VW workshop sessions.
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Re: Revo Remap.....
« Reply #29 on: 04 December 2007, 00:37 »
Quite honestly, although I am totally satisfied with Revo's Stage1, I would have very seriously considered APR's offering if it had been available when I remapped, especially as Awesome offer it and I have lots of respect for Awesome. Manchester is a bit far though! My Revo tuner is 2 hrs drive away and not the closest Revo agent but I really trust the guy (Jim at JKM Portsmouth) and know that he's one of Revo's most respected. Which brings me to the point that it's very important to trust your tuner and his abilities and equipment etc.
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