Revo Remap.....

[Peskarik]

A number of other users have been replacing the DV with a forge item. Apparently the location can lead to overheating. The Forge replacement is £140 irrc

Is that DV required if you only put your foot down now and then?
Isnt the DV placed in an ackward location on the GTI and in a different location on the ED30? I think i read somewhere it was...

true, they are placed differently. VW understood there are problems with DV being close to turbo, so they moved it. Still people say it can blow, especially if you increase boost preassure, which you inevitably do when you chip it. So I bought Forge DV. I have it on a shelf in a box. 

[RedRobin]

....Where is this idea that the Revo is "aggressive" coming from!? - It's NOT aggressive. Powerful, yes and also plenty torque. Particularly smooth on a DSG.

Stage2 Revo will be more aggressive but only if you also have hardware mods to bring it out.

Don't take all that much notice of the bhp numbers which tuners quote - They vary from day to day according to conditions and rolling road. Other mods will also contribute to the numbers. It's driveability which is all important.

The location of the DV isn't what gives a potential problem but the stock DV itself - The diaphram can tear when subjected to extra boost levels but there have been failures reported on standard cars too.

Forge DV is strongly recommended on any remapped GTI.

Modern VeeDubs are designed and built with about +40% 'headroom' (I'm independently told by more than one very experienced engineer). So, if you push the envelope it's best to keep within +40% parameters if you want to stay reliable in the long term. That translates to roughly 280 bhp and 300 ft lb for the DSG box.
 


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[Hurdy]

....Where is this idea that the Revo is "aggressive" coming from!? - It's NOT aggressive. Powerful, yes and also plenty torque. Particularly smooth on a DSG.

Stage2 Revo will be more aggressive but only if you also have hardware mods to bring it out.

Don't take all that much notice of the bhp numbers which tuners quote - They vary from day to day according to conditions and rolling road. Other mods will also contribute to the numbers. It's driveability which is all important.

The location of the DV isn't what gives a potential problem but the stock DV itself - The diaphram can tear when subjected to extra boost levels but there have been failures reported on standard cars too.

Forge DV is strongly recommended on any remapped GTI.

Modern VeeDubs are designed and built with about +40% 'headroom' (I'm independently told by more than one very experienced engineer). So, if you push the envelope it's best to keep within +40% parameters if you want to stay reliable in the long term. That translates to roughly 280 bhp and 300 ft lb for the DSG box.
 


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And for the ED30 up to 318bhp and 300lb/ft

I would have probably gone for a Revo remap, but the Lure of the APR remap and it's ability to swap instantaneously from stock to power map and back with a touch of the cruise control proved a much better resolved option for me.

[maxamus]

....Where is this idea that the Revo is "aggressive" coming from!? - It's NOT aggressive. Powerful, yes and also plenty torque. Particularly smooth on a DSG.

Stage2 Revo will be more aggressive but only if you also have hardware mods to bring it out.

Don't take all that much notice of the bhp numbers which tuners quote - They vary from day to day according to conditions and rolling road. Other mods will also contribute to the numbers. It's driveability which is all important.

The location of the DV isn't what gives a potential problem but the stock DV itself - The diaphram can tear when subjected to extra boost levels but there have been failures reported on standard cars too.

Forge DV is strongly recommended on any remapped GTI.

Modern VeeDubs are designed and built with about +40% 'headroom' (I'm independently told by more than one very experienced engineer). So, if you push the envelope it's best to keep within +40% parameters if you want to stay reliable in the long term. That translates to roughly 280 bhp and 300 ft lb for the DSG box.
 


[Great! I've just noticed the Santa hats!]

And for the ED30 up to 318bhp and 300lb/ft

I would have probably gone for a Revo remap, but the Lure of the APR remap and it's ability to swap instantaneously from stock to power map and back with a touch of the cruise control proved a much better resolved option for me.

Now i like the sound of that!
Turning on the power when you need it!
I think i might look into APR because i know VW were fitting cruise control for £150 or was it £100, cant remember now.

APR remap will take it upto 252bhp and they are offering it for £499 which is good. The nearest APR dealer is in Manchester though which is too far 

[maxamus]

....Where is this idea that the Revo is "aggressive" coming from!? - It's NOT aggressive. Powerful, yes and also plenty torque. Particularly smooth on a DSG.

Stage2 Revo will be more aggressive but only if you also have hardware mods to bring it out.

Don't take all that much notice of the bhp numbers which tuners quote - They vary from day to day according to conditions and rolling road. Other mods will also contribute to the numbers. It's driveability which is all important.

The location of the DV isn't what gives a potential problem but the stock DV itself - The diaphram can tear when subjected to extra boost levels but there have been failures reported on standard cars too.

Forge DV is strongly recommended on any remapped GTI.

Modern VeeDubs are designed and built with about +40% 'headroom' (I'm independently told by more than one very experienced engineer). So, if you push the envelope it's best to keep within +40% parameters if you want to stay reliable in the long term. That translates to roughly 280 bhp and 300 ft lb for the DSG box.
 


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Thanks Robin. Helpful as always.

I just feel abit twitchy about modding the engine and ive been reading stories of people have problems with they clutch, the fuel delivary and the way the torque is applied aorund 5,000 revs etc etc.

And now my warranty has expired i dont want to mess the engine or any parts up because it would be very costly and if the remap will cause problems then its useless which would mean it would be a waste of money. Thats why i need to be certain.

I use the word "aggresive" as quoted from other forums. People mention it was more hardcore than Superchips. The thing i like about the superchipsis the way it can be installed at home and can be turned on and off at my leisure rather than taking it to a dealer. Also the boost feels more natural as its only 40bhp above the default.

Am i worrying too much ?

[RedRobin]

....I agree that the APR switchability is far easier than the Revo. However, I hope it's not switchable with the cruise stalk by mistake!!

Bear in mind that any change to the ECU takes about 100 miles to settle each time you switch, either way. This especially applies to the DSG control unit.

[Hurdy]

....Where is this idea that the Revo is "aggressive" coming from!? - It's NOT aggressive. Powerful, yes and also plenty torque. Particularly smooth on a DSG.

Stage2 Revo will be more aggressive but only if you also have hardware mods to bring it out.

Don't take all that much notice of the bhp numbers which tuners quote - They vary from day to day according to conditions and rolling road. Other mods will also contribute to the numbers. It's driveability which is all important.

The location of the DV isn't what gives a potential problem but the stock DV itself - The diaphram can tear when subjected to extra boost levels but there have been failures reported on standard cars too.

Forge DV is strongly recommended on any remapped GTI.

Modern VeeDubs are designed and built with about +40% 'headroom' (I'm independently told by more than one very experienced engineer). So, if you push the envelope it's best to keep within +40% parameters if you want to stay reliable in the long term. That translates to roughly 280 bhp and 300 ft lb for the DSG box.
 


[Great! I've just noticed the Santa hats!]

And for the ED30 up to 318bhp and 300lb/ft

I would have probably gone for a Revo remap, but the Lure of the APR remap and it's ability to swap instantaneously from stock to power map and back with a touch of the cruise control proved a much better resolved option for me.

Now i like the sound of that!
Turning on the power when you need it!
I think i might look into APR because i know VW were fitting cruise control for £150 or was it £100, cant remember now.

APR remap will take it upto 252bhp and they are offering it for £499 which is good. The nearest APR dealer is in Manchester though which is too far 

It's not too far! Consider it a pilgrimage and not a journey and it becomes an experience. Go home the winding road way and you'll enjoy the remap even more

Dealer fit cruise is £150.

[maxamus]

It's not too far! Consider it a pilgrimage and not a journey and it becomes an experience. Go home the winding road way and you'll enjoy the remap even more

Dealer fit cruise is £150.

yes but then when car goes in for a service and they update my software then i would need to drive all teh way down manchester to get it installed again 

[Hurdy]

....I agree that the APR switchability is far easier than the Revo. However, I hope it's not switchable with the cruise stalk by mistake!!

Bear in mind that any change to the ECU takes about 100 miles to settle each time you switch, either way. This especially applies to the DSG control unit.

I have been assured that it takes more than a brief touch (couple of seconds press)

Most of my road journeys will be with the map on standard. It will mainly be journeys to trackdays and 1/4 milers that the map will be used. This way I can live with it easier knowing that longevity of engine parts should not be too much of an issue.

[Hurdy]

It's not too far! Consider it a pilgrimage and not a journey and it becomes an experience. Go home the winding road way and you'll enjoy the remap even more

Dealer fit cruise is £150.

yes but then when car goes in for a service and they update my software then i would need to drive all teh way down manchester to get it installed again 

No it shouldn't. That is the beauty of the APR map. Switch it to the standard map and if VW need to do an upgrade it will only alter that map and not one of the other selectable files.