Author Topic: Just got a 16v but having an engine problem, UPDATED  (Read 3752 times)

Offline Uruk Hai

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Re: Just got a 16v but having an engine problem, seeking advice
« Reply #10 on: 01 December 2007, 09:06 »
If your gonna look at the fuel pump then I would defo check the lift pump first as these obviously can fail but there not as much to buy as the main pump thats under the car but can still cause fuel starvation and to be honest I would try everything rubjonny suggests because if he dont know it, it aint worth knowing  :wink:

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Re: Just got a 16v but having an engine problem, seeking advice
« Reply #11 on: 01 December 2007, 09:10 »
There are no clips to hold in the 16v injectors, just the upper seals.  The lower seals arnt as important, but it lookslike they got old n brittle and fell off.  New upper seals all round would be my next port of call, possibly just fit a new set of brass ones just becasue they're cheap!

I'm not sure what the clips in the diagram were for, but not required.  The 16v has 2 pumps, one under the car and another in the fuel tank, it does sound like the lift pump may have packed up.  Get under the car and disconnect the wiring plug to the main pump, then turn the key 1 click so the fuel system primes.  You should hear the lift pump in the tank, if not its dead :)

An 8v or 16v GTI lift pump will do, but the pre/post 90 pumps have different plugs, the lat ones have 4 pins & early only 3 iirc.  Lift up the boot carpet and you'll see a round metal plate, remove this then check out which plug your pump has.
Main issue with swapping them is if you can undo the large plastic nut holding it in, in the end I had to cut mine off it was so tight!  Not expensive from VW though.
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Re: Just got a 16v but having an engine problem, seeking advice
« Reply #12 on: 01 December 2007, 13:45 »
Told you  :grin: :wink:

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Re: Just got a 16v but having an engine problem, seeking advice
« Reply #13 on: 01 December 2007, 18:34 »
Ok, changed the exhaust today and fired her up agian, running sweet as a nut on tick over and throttle seems ok too, gonna flash the cash at halfords tomorrow and basically buy everthing they have that fits, guess the real test is taking her for a run, fingers crossed eh? Fuel pump is a noisy bugger too so I may need to look into that!






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Re: Just got a 16v but having an engine problem, seeking advice
« Reply #14 on: 03 December 2007, 08:42 »
noooo don't buy bits from Halfords :grin:
http://www.vwspares.co.uk
http://www.gsfcarparts.com
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Re: Just got a 16v but having an engine problem, UPDATED
« Reply #15 on: 09 December 2007, 16:25 »
Okay, decided to do a full service today and cranked her up to get warmed up for an oil change. Ran for about 2 minutes then started spluttering before eventually dieing and will not start again. Pulled out the injectors 1 by one and found that there was no fuel at all coming out when trying to crank it.

Had a look at all of the banjo bolts and there seems to be plenty of fuel getting to these, no blockages here as far as we can see ....



So my first question is, what is the unit fitted to the side of the block as pictured below?



Does this have some kind of filter in it as previously mentioned or is that the bolt in the unit where the fuel goes in as pictured below



It does sound a lot like one of the fuel pumps has packed in as rubjonny mentioned but any further ideas are appreciated






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Re: Just got a 16v but having an engine problem, UPDATED
« Reply #16 on: 09 December 2007, 16:34 »
the bit on the block is the warm up regulator, the bolt that may/may not have a filter in is the main inlet line to the side of the fuel metering head from the fuel pumps :)
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Re: Just got a 16v but having an engine problem, UPDATED
« Reply #17 on: 09 December 2007, 16:48 »
So whats your diagnosis then John, sound like one of the pumps is definately gone as you suggested?

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Re: Just got a 16v but having an engine problem, UPDATED
« Reply #18 on: 09 December 2007, 18:03 »
You could try changing the main fuel filter - its a cheap option.

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Re: Just got a 16v but having an engine problem, UPDATED
« Reply #19 on: 09 December 2007, 18:18 »
Aye, Ive got one of those ready to go on. Was the plan to do a full service today before she died!   :cry: