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CAR PROBLEM NOW SOLVED!!!!!
Ignition switch fault, iv had the cowling off and once i fiddled with the wires it fired up, some idiot has butcherd the wires at some point too using them scotch tabs!!! Never use them as they are BAD.
iv put a tie wrap to hold it all tight and its runnig fine, i just need to get a new ignition switch from main dealer, my next door neighbour is a technician at VW leeds (he been away last week and just got back) and said this problem would have nothing to do with Hall sensor, crank sensor, coil or starter etc and said the relay thing had nnothing to do with it either and to check ignition switch as this is a common problem on all VW, and Audi etc....even ones which are almost new...
He was right by the looks of it and i advise anyone with similar probs to check this out also
ill keep reporting back how it goes..