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Offline Lagerlout

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DSG - grabbing?
« on: 17 September 2007, 15:21 »
hi all,

Question for you DSG owners, how do you find the box? Read a bit about how the clutch can be a bit grabby in certain circumstance, is that true? Any issues with the box?

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Re: DSG - grabbing?
« Reply #1 on: 17 September 2007, 16:06 »
Only once did mine grab, and it was a bad one. I slowed down to reverse into a lane and didn't quite stop but still had my foot brake depressed, put it into reverse and rev'd the engine for it to instantly grab as if it fully let out the clutch. It resulted in a fair judder and I was very surprised, only done it the once but I'll make sure i'm 100% stopped next time.

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Re: DSG - grabbing?
« Reply #2 on: 17 September 2007, 19:03 »
yes thats all u need to make sure is that your not revving the engine highter then tic over speed, cus the car will grab like you say.but its a very very small negative as i think the dsg makes the GTi the extra bit special. It makes an already great car superb. A must have option imo :smiley:

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Re: DSG - grabbing?
« Reply #3 on: 17 September 2007, 19:27 »
the footbrake has an engine brake in the fly by wire accelerator.you can not drive a dsg even in confined spaces using 2 feet at once.even though we in the trade always do.thats what ur getting.x

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Re: DSG - grabbing?
« Reply #4 on: 17 September 2007, 19:50 »
I've had 3 DSG cars and can honestly say that it is like silk off a babies bottom :smug:

Unless you are ham fisted with controlling reverse that is :wink:
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Re: DSG - grabbing?
« Reply #5 on: 17 September 2007, 21:46 »
No problems so far. I really enjoy it........ :cool:

Only problem that I find is in S mode it grabs 1st a little too soon, eg coming to a halt when coming down a motorway slip road
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Re: DSG - grabbing?
« Reply #6 on: 17 September 2007, 23:18 »
I tend not to use S mode much. If I want to be sporty I tend to flick it over to manual. :smiley:
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Re: DSG - grabbing?
« Reply #7 on: 17 September 2007, 23:33 »
I tend not to use S mode much. If I want to be sporty I tend to flick it over to manual. :smiley:

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Re: DSG - grabbing?
« Reply #8 on: 18 September 2007, 09:17 »
the footbrake has an engine brake in the fly by wire accelerator.

I think you are slightly confused. :smiley:

If you are in any of the "gear engaged" modes, ie, any position except park or neutral - when you have you foot on the brake, the DSG ECU takes a signal from the brake pedal switch and fully disengages the clutches.  When you release the footbrake fully (even if you still have the handbrake applied), and the car is stationary, the DSG ECU instructs the appropriate clutch to engage to the bite point.  As the road speed of the car matches the "theoretical" speed of the relevent gear ratio selected, the DSG ECU progressively applies full clamping force to the relevent clutch pack, thus transmitting full drive, without any clutch slip.

The footbrake certainly does not in any way "brake" the engine, because even with the footbrake applied, you can still rev the engine.

you can not drive a dsg even in confined spaces using 2 feet at once.

You certainly can use brake and accelerator together, but you need to know how to "defeat" the override.  This is the same on all "fly-by-wire" accelerator pedals, be they DSG, slushbox, or manual.
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Re: DSG - grabbing?
« Reply #9 on: 18 September 2007, 09:25 »
Question for you DSG owners, how do you find the box? Read a bit about how the clutch can be a bit grabby in certain circumstance, is that true? Any issues with the box?

I find the DSG in SWMBOs GTI silky smooth, but a GolfPlus 1.6FSI DSG courtessy car was noticeably more "jerky", particularly in "S" mode (I had to, 'cause it didn't have paddles!  :embarassed:).

I think all DSG boxes can be "grabby" if you are too quick getting on the accelerator when moving from neutral to any of the drive gears.  The knack is to keep your foot on the brake pedal, move the selector lever into the desired gear position, and then WAIT a second or so, until you feel the very mild and subtle "jolt" as the actual cogs in the box engage.  It is simply a question of getting used to certain traits of the otherwise god-like box!  :smiley:
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