My gti beat R32 just from a remap

[R32UK]

OK then i guess we agree. I would like to know what the deal is with the Renault 225 sport tho. Anyone raced one.. as I had some numb nuts trying it on with me today... And refused to be drawn into a road race (only 70miles on the sexy beast as yet) altho I did give him a little sniff of the V6. His did sound quite meaty too.. and he had all mod stickers on his back windows. no doubt other hot hatches remap too!!

[Hurdy]

Time for my two-penneth then

Didn't see a single MKV R32 at the Santa Pod crack 14.5seconds and only saw 2 known modified MKV R32's beat my standing quarter at inters. There were six modded MKIV R32's doing sub 14 seconds, but the only two MKV R32's (non-modded) went down in 14.782 and 15.014. Mine managed 14.476 as standard and at the time with only 2k on the clock and so the engine still would be "tight".

Similarly the two MKV R32's That posted the 1/4 mile times above also posted 6.17 and 6.19 seconds for the 0-60 dash as opposed to my time of 5.66 seconds.

Even in the wet at Inters on Saturday morning I managed 6.02 seconds for the 0-60 and 14.769secs for the standing qtr.

A simple remap of the Standard MKV GTI will give similar times to my Standard ED30 and a simple remap of the ED30 will drop the 0 - 60 times down to the very low 5's and the low 13's for the standing quarter. To get a similar time for the MKV R32 would involve a significant amount of dosh instead of around £500.

I have no doubt in my mind that given an unlimited amount of money to modify each car would ultimately result in victory for the R32, however we all live in the real world and things steer very easily towards the ED30/std GTI as the better overall car. Sure if you want a pseudo 4WD car that purports to be the ultimate golf then go for it. Us in the know will always know that the GTI is more nimble, understeers less, drinks less and goes better

[Phil mcavity]

Its mainly to do with the extra weight the r32 carrys over the GTi hense why the turbo GTi makes up for the loss in Horsepower against the R32. Renault is Very very fast, and is a real brute, you may struggle to keep with it. especially the new 230 cup versions.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

I have no doubt in my mind that given an unlimited amount of money to modify each car would ultimately result in victory for the R32, however we all live in the real world and things steer very easily towards the ED30/std GTI as the better overall car.

Yup, fully agree.  (Haven't I been bashing on about that very issue elsewhere!  )

Sure if you want a pseudo 4WD car that purports to be the ultimate golf then go for it. Us in the know will always know that the GTI is more nimble, understeers less, drinks less and goes better

Sweet ^^^^^   

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Its mainly to do with the extra weight the r32 carrys over the GTi hense why the turbo GTi makes up for the loss in Horsepower against the R32.

Also, some of that "extra" horsepower will actually be "lost" due to the increased transmission losses from a hypoid rear differential.  It is well known that 4 wheel drive vehicles suffer greater driveline, or transmission losses when compared to a 2 wheel drive layout.

And for some really nerdy 2 wheel drive only info, a rear wheel drive will still suffer greater losses than a front wheel drive - which explains why BMWs are slow, and they don't tell you that in the BMW adverts!   

[joesgti]

my gti was remapped by celtic tuning, they clain to have put 65hp on the car, this probably is why it beat the R32, I rang them yesterday to get some stats before i put it on the rolling road (just to see if they are acurate) apparently 265hp, 0-60 in 5.5secs. not a bad price either 350quids

any ways my friend want his R32 remapped but i doubt it will give it much more power as there is no turbo!! haha 

ill let you all know the true stats next week, also how the hell do you post pictures??

[AlanD]

Whats the point in having an R32 then apart from getting a nice noise in a tunnel?

[Russ.C]

I can't speak for the MK5 but my MK4 always felt lazy and underpowered considering the 3.2V6 lump.  As others have mentioned I suppose this is down to the weight and 4WD - why didn't VW load the MK5 with more BHP like the S3?
Lovely sounding/looking car, but since I've been in the ED30 I've never looked back with any regret.  I occasionally wish I had the V6 'soundtrack', but the whole GTI package (turbo engine, handling, styling, fuel economy) more than outweighs that!

[Mattso]

Whats the point in having an R32 then apart from getting a nice noise in a tunnel?

Very wet roads apparently.

And personally I really like the seats.

However, couldn't justify the extra dosh over my GTi

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Whats the point in having an R32 then apart from getting a nice noise in a tunnel?

It is the "pinacle" Golf - some people are simply willing to pay for the privelidge of owning the top Golf, irrespective of weather it is actually better than any of its' lesser bretheren.