My gti beat R32 just from a remap

[evad]

Dsg GTi remapped and R32 would then be a match as i did say at the start of all this!

I think you've dramatically underestimated that scenario.  A remaped GTI really would be noticeably quicker than a standard, or even remapped R32.

I would say you are completely right there, I don't know about other MkV R32 owners here but I certainly didn't buy my R with the misconception that it was the fastest VW out there (otherwise I'd be driving a mad jap thing), I had a GTI for year before it and it had very similar performance, I bought it for the following reasons, 1. In Ireland to spec a GTI to the same spec as a standard R with leather leaves you with barely 2K(Euro) in the difference, so for the sake of a bit of exclusivity I went for the R, 2. Six cyl and the associated noises. 3. AWD Security, I know this is a bone of contention here, but the roads I drive and weather here it does make a difference.

After 7 months ownership it still interests me as how different a drive it is to the GTI, its slightly less sharp than the Gti, I do find it more comfortable(as does my family), the engine is finally starting to wake up and dominates the car and really endowes it with character. Ok it has a drink and emissions problem (and road tax here is £700) and a pathetic boot but my annual milage is now very low so it doesn't cause a huge problem.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Dsg GTi remapped and R32 would then be a match as i did say at the start of all this!

I think you've dramatically underestimated that scenario.  A remaped GTI really would be noticeably quicker than a standard, or even remapped R32.

I would say you are completely right there, I don't know about other MkV R32 owners here but I certainly didn't buy my R with the misconception that it was the fastest VW out there (otherwise I'd be driving a mad jap thing), I had a GTI for year before it and it had very similar performance, I bought it for the following reasons, 1. In Ireland to spec a GTI to the same spec as a standard R with leather leaves you with barely 2K(Euro) in the difference, so for the sake of a bit of exclusivity I went for the R, 2. Six cyl and the associated noises. 3. AWD Security, I know this is a bone of contention here, but the roads I drive and weather here it does make a difference.

After 7 months ownership it still interests me as how different a drive it is to the GTI, its slightly less sharp than the Gti, I do find it more comfortable(as does my family), the engine is finally starting to wake up and dominates the car and really endowes it with character. Ok it has a drink and emissions problem (and road tax here is £700) and a pathetic boot but my annual milage is now very low so it doesn't cause a huge problem.

OK, thumbs up for a good post. 

A couple of points:

HOW much for road tax!!!

And the AWD issue - yes, it does work, in that it (eventually) transmits power to both axles.  However, my bone of contention is the actual way it operates.  It relies on the front wheels LOOSING traction before it then decides to send power to the rear.  During this transitional phase, the handling can be compromised, and you can actually feel it swapping ends (the power distribution) through the seat of your pants.  This is exactly how those nasty, crap, rice burner, "playstation on wheels", overrated Scoobs and Evos work. 

[BobbyT]

Dsg GTi remapped and R32 would then be a match as i did say at the start of all this!

I think you've dramatically underestimated that scenario.  A remaped GTI really would be noticeably quicker than a standard, or even remapped R32.

I would say you are completely right there, I don't know about other MkV R32 owners here but I certainly didn't buy my R with the misconception that it was the fastest VW out there (otherwise I'd be driving a mad jap thing), I had a GTI for year before it and it had very similar performance, I bought it for the following reasons, 1. In Ireland to spec a GTI to the same spec as a standard R with leather leaves you with barely 2K(Euro) in the difference, so for the sake of a bit of exclusivity I went for the R, 2. Six cyl and the associated noises. 3. AWD Security, I know this is a bone of contention here, but the roads I drive and weather here it does make a difference.

After 7 months ownership it still interests me as how different a drive it is to the GTI, its slightly less sharp than the Gti, I do find it more comfortable(as does my family), the engine is finally starting to wake up and dominates the car and really endowes it with character. Ok it has a drink and emissions problem (and road tax here is £700) and a pathetic boot but my annual milage is now very low so it doesn't cause a huge problem.

OK, thumbs up for a good post. 

A couple of points:

HOW much for road tax!!!

And the AWD issue - yes, it does work, in that it (eventually) transmits power to both axles.  However, my bone of contention is the actual way it operates.  It relies on the front wheels LOOSING traction before it then decides to send power to the rear.  During this transitional phase, the handling can be compromised, and you can actually feel it swapping ends (the power distribution) through the seat of your pants.  This is exactly how those nasty, crap, rice burner, "playstation on wheels", overrated Scoobs and Evos work. 

sorry to butt in but after a friend of mine had an evo for a bit i can say they are not crap and are one of the best 'drivers' cars i have been in! they are so fast its gob smacking! far better than any golf!  not a fan of the scooby's mind! 

[R32UK]

GOOD POST EVAD!!

I have to agree that I didnt buy me r32 so i could have the fastest car on the road, but because of the superior ride quality, v6, and handling. Correct im probably not going to beat a remapped gti or ed30. But who really cares? It p1sses it down here most of the time.. so having the 4wd is always a help. Yes you can feel the power shift to the rear if you give it some welly, but i quite like this!

I have had a few run ins with gti's already and none of them have even bothered to try keep up.. after the 100 mark the handling of the R32 really excels anyway.

[evad]

Dsg GTi remapped and R32 would then be a match as i did say at the start of all this!

I think you've dramatically underestimated that scenario.  A remaped GTI really would be noticeably quicker than a standard, or even remapped R32.

I would say you are completely right there, I don't know about other MkV R32 owners here but I certainly didn't buy my R with the misconception that it was the fastest VW out there (otherwise I'd be driving a mad jap thing), I had a GTI for year before it and it had very similar performance, I bought it for the following reasons, 1. In Ireland to spec a GTI to the same spec as a standard R with leather leaves you with barely 2K(Euro) in the difference, so for the sake of a bit of exclusivity I went for the R, 2. Six cyl and the associated noises. 3. AWD Security, I know this is a bone of contention here, but the roads I drive and weather here it does make a difference.

After 7 months ownership it still interests me as how different a drive it is to the GTI, its slightly less sharp than the Gti, I do find it more comfortable(as does my family), the engine is finally starting to wake up and dominates the car and really endowes it with character. Ok it has a drink and emissions problem (and road tax here is £700) and a pathetic boot but my annual milage is now very low so it doesn't cause a huge problem.

OK, thumbs up for a good post. 

A couple of points:

HOW much for road tax!!!

And the AWD issue - yes, it does work, in that it (eventually) transmits power to both axles.  However, my bone of contention is the actual way it operates.  It relies on the front wheels LOOSING traction before it then decides to send power to the rear.  During this transitional phase, the handling can be compromised, and you can actually feel it swapping ends (the power distribution) through the seat of your pants.  This is exactly how those nasty, crap, rice burner, "playstation on wheels", overrated Scoobs and Evos work. 

Yip 1383 euros to mister government man to keep our roads as crap as they are :embarassed:

When I initially got the car I discovered this handling trate, but as I have got used to driving it I've learned to adapt to it, in fwd my initial reaction to front wheel slip if to lift off slightly causing the back end to become slightly light, hence helping the car come back on line, with the R if you do this you get this stange reaction from the diffs, but I have learned to ignore this reaction now and by keeping the foot in (even applying more power) the effect is much reduced (I'm sure the electronics are helping here), yes its nose led but still enjoyable.

[Mattso]

......and road tax here is £700.....

 

[davefish]

Ok, I give in. Enjoy your forum

[Kiddfrost]

Had a go with an R32 yesterday, we just had couple of short runs. I did miss a gear as my left arm was trying to emulate a DSG  :embarassed:. I'm revo'd up (3.5k miles on the clock) and there's not a lot in it, but IMO a gti with a decent remap is slightly faster.
As expected, the R32 is superior when accelerating from standstill around a bend. He was behind me at a roundabout, we turned left and I accelerated trying to avoid wheelspin (2nd gear). He started to creep around the outside of me so I floored it and just seemed to wheelspin for ever. By the time I stopped spinning we were about level. It was a shame cos at this point we had to break off.

[joesgti]

ulucky, what tyers u got? was it wet? when i raced one it was a straight drag, i won   

[Kiddfrost]

ulucky, what tyers u got? was it wet? when i raced one it was a straight drag, i won   

Was in the dry. I've got Michelin exalto's at the moment,, only bout 3mm left,,, pilot sport ps2's next