Author Topic: MK 3 rear speaker connector prob, ????  (Read 3323 times)

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MK 3 rear speaker connector prob, ????
« on: 23 June 2007, 18:12 »
right folks, bit of a prob going on with my rear drivers side speaker

basically neither the woofer or the tweeter are working, i plugged in a speaker i know works and that dont work either so i know its not coz the speaker thats blown, i checked the loom where it goes through the door into the B pillar, their is a connector that seems to screw into a yellow plastic thing which is inside the B pillar, but the thing is i cant get it to screw in as it pushes the yellow part into the b pillar when i try so its not connecting propperly, anyone had this prob and how do u sort it, do i need to remove the inner trim on the B pillar, if so whats the best way to do this??


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Re: MK 3 rear speaker connector prob, ????
« Reply #1 on: 23 June 2007, 19:56 »
yeah, my front drivers door does it, when it plays up the electric windows dont work either! which is nice.
can you get it to work by moving the connector around? have a look at where the connector ''clips in'' if that makes sense (even though its a screw connector it will have clips), if its like mine some of the clip things may have snapped meaning that when you screw the blocks together it kind off pops back inside.

unless there is a way to replace those clips or superglue it so it doesnt move I cant see a way of doing it, luckely for me mine is just dodgy and will still just about work but if another tab thing snaps i may be in your position. 

my problem seems to lie in the wiring tubing rather than the framework of the car though, so your issues may be slightly different.

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Re: MK 3 rear speaker connector prob, ????
« Reply #2 on: 23 June 2007, 22:21 »
yeah, my front drivers door does it, when it plays up the electric windows dont work either! which is nice.
can you get it to work by moving the connector around? have a look at where the connector ''clips in'' if that makes sense (even though its a screw connector it will have clips), if its like mine some of the clip things may have snapped meaning that when you screw the blocks together it kind off pops back inside.

unless there is a way to replace those clips or superglue it so it doesnt move I cant see a way of doing it, luckely for me mine is just dodgy and will still just about work but if another tab thing snaps i may be in your position. 

my problem seems to lie in the wiring tubing rather than the framework of the car though, so your issues may be slightly different.


i cant get the connector to join at all, i can see the guide at the bottom so i know which way it needs to go, but when i push it on nothing happens as it just pushes the yellow connector into the body of the car (from the outside it looks all normal at this point)

on the connector from the door side their is 5 thin tab things and a fatter one too..
im just wondering if i take off the interior trim (behind the B pillar not the door) can i get to the connector which lies in the B pillar, coz if i could hold it  while i connect the 2 together im thinking it may solve the prob, i can see the yellow side has some bits on it that look as tho they should be attached to the bodywork and they are not

off to see my mate tomo who is a ICE installer and a good one at that, see what he says/comes up with

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Re: MK 3 rear speaker connector prob, ????
« Reply #3 on: 24 June 2007, 21:17 »
yeah, as your problem lies in the car framework itself and mine is on the other end ( if you get what i mean)  it looks like removing the panels will, unfortunately be the way to go.

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Re: MK 3 rear speaker connector prob, ????
« Reply #4 on: 24 June 2007, 22:02 »
yeah, as your problem lies in the car framework itself and mine is on the other end ( if you get what i mean)  it looks like removing the panels will, unfortunately be the way to go.

I removed all interior trim, got the yellow connector, clips back in no problem so that problem is sorted, i did however find the real problem with why the speakers are not working, basically if u remove the rubber off the white connector u see all the speaker wires going into it, well one of them has snapped, but the snap is right in the connector so i dont know how im gonna re connect it up??

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Re: MK 3 rear speaker connector prob, ????
« Reply #5 on: 25 June 2007, 13:20 »
what a b!tch!, your problem is now in my end, for me thats the bit that keeps popping off, the white bit pops inside the black screw bit.
but a snapped wire, right, I can tell you how to do it but its not easy!, I have amped up my front speakers and have had to go through that white connector to do it. the easiest way for me show you would be to take some pictures and post them for you or send them to you if you use MSN ( pm me your address.) you will need some speaker wire and some connectors ( bullets, spades) and either a drill or I used a small flathead screwdriver but a hole punch would be better.

Ill write how to do it and if you dont get my drift ill take some pictures.

what you basically do is, if you look at that white/yellow connectors you should see that some of the places where the wires go through arnt being used, so there are no wires going into the little compartments. what needs to happen is, use those empty slots to make a way through for some speaker wire. you will need to kind of break through the connector either drill or force with a screwdriver / holepunch, you will need to do it to make the replacement cable fit, then just join the ends back together with the spade/bullet connectors.

thats the only way i can think of doing it im afraid, unless there is enough wire left to attach a bullet clip onto, but i suppose you thought of that!

its the worst job i have had to do on my golf stereo, everything else was proper simple, i nearly had to take the dash out! and you will have to take your trim off again to make the new connections indide the pillar, unfortunately!
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Re: MK 3 rear speaker connector prob, ????
« Reply #6 on: 25 June 2007, 19:47 »
totally get what you are saying their mate, thanx for this, i did actually think of maybe doing this, pain in the ass these golfs hahaha

loks like im gonna have to do this, im a dab hand at removing the interior trim now anyway hehe

but yeah thanx alot for taking the time to help out,

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Re: MK 3 rear speaker connector prob, ????
« Reply #7 on: 25 June 2007, 20:43 »
yeah, cars in general are a b!tch, after my previous cars though, my VW's have been like a dream, as opposed to a complete nightmare! havn't caused me many problems (, except amping the front speakers! ) only a few small jobs needed doing.

my first car was french, nuff said on that one! 

then I had a mitsy that i found out after buying it that it was ex rally, I was told it was an ex demonstration car, they didnt say it was demonstrating how it could fly! I thought, test drive kind of thing, as you would, that one didnt last long!

had an old B reg 1.3 polo, that was quality! Thats why i decided to stick VW after that.

getting some more money soon though so I may return to japs again!

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Re: MK 3 rear speaker connector prob, ????
« Reply #8 on: 25 June 2007, 22:25 »
yeah tbh im a jap head in my blood, iv always had them and they just run forever, the car in my sig (much hated on here mind hehe) was my first ever car and started life as a white swift GTI, which i bought in 1995, 7 sets of alloys, and 4 resprays later its had an amazing 20k spent on it and is currently is storage, and in a very mint condition, was used every day till a few years ago and it never let me down, and thats with its modified to over 155bph engine.

I got my mk 3 Golf GTI as a run about to replace my old faithfull J reg mk5 escort that had done 250k miles which sadly had bad corrosion probs on its underside :(
i must admit i really like my Golf, and luckily iv had trouble free (mainly) and no rust etc etc. and my dad has Vdubs, he has a mk 4 Turbo at the mo with just about every extra, a great car!   so yeah although im more into jap stuff, i have always liked Golfs..

your mitsy sounds interesting tho  :cool: :wink: :laugh:

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Re: MK 3 rear speaker connector prob, ????
« Reply #9 on: 25 June 2007, 23:00 »
the swifts are quick as standard, being so small and light, didnt even realise thats what it was! my missis bruv has got a mint motor, got to have spent over 10k on it do you use msn? ill send you some pictures, its well modded, just a shame about what car it is, i wont tell you, you will only be dissapointed! you will have to see for yourself!


escorts ( in fact all fords! ) are bad for rust, the dreaded petrol cap!!!

my mitsy wasn't really rallied ( I dont think! ) but I dont know what they did to it, all the underside was rusty and had chunks out of it, bear in mind it was only a year old ( 5k miles) and looked mint, so, foolishly i didnt do the usual checks!  ( it looked like it may have been ramped onto a transporter too fast or something like that.)

and the back? yes back tyres were bald as a coot and the back?, yes back, breakpads were worn through to metal ( but the front ones were fine?), again both the tyres and pads, i didnt even think to check,

then a seal on the gearbox ( funnily enough NOT covered by warranty!) started leaking oil.

on top of all this the ''services'' I took it for ( for £260 a go!), well I may as well have not bothered, they did nothing they were supposed to, I had started to check up on the mitsy dealers work by this point!

and! a once silent car had developed a suspicious ''tick, tick, tick'' on idle, so I got shot of it before it cost me anymore (money and hastle)

my missis and me came to the conclusion ( seriously this time! ) it must have been on a skidpad, its the only thing that would explain everything that happened to it.