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Offline ian007miles

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change of plan
« on: 15 June 2007, 14:39 »
 ive just took delivery of a kenwood kac ps1d cos the other amp that i have has been discontiued :cry: and the bloke at bass junkies said the kac ps1d will run my 2xalpine type r 15's better than 2 of the other amps  and the thing i need lelp with is the settings if any can help me you can down load the instrutions from www.kenwood.com and choose uk from the menu and then car electronics and then amps and then the amp modal and the fing i need help with is listed under controls and its all the things from 13 to 20 so i need help please help me i no im a pain in th behind but im learnin fanx ian
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Re: change of plan
« Reply #1 on: 15 June 2007, 15:44 »
right a few things ive never heared of but here goes, some other people may be able to help more hopefully.

13. phase switch or dial knob. is to do with the timing of the sub , only ever seen it on the active sub things and it never makes much difference. id just leave it off unless you notice like a lag/mismatch between the sound from the spks and from the subs.

14 . infrasound filter switch. this gets rid of sound that is produced by equiptment but you cant hear it, you may want to switch it on and set it to.....

15 . IF sound adjustment. set to the lowest frequency the sub can produce ( mentioned below)

16+17 . I wouldnt bother with these adjustments unless you fancy messing around. it appears to basically be a way of stopping rattles, look at page 7 of the instructions and you will kind of get why I say not to bother.

18. lpf ( low filter ) switch. cuts off frequency HIGHER  than a set value, ( very useful, turn on look at point 20 for settings)

19. gain (level adjust) . similar to vollume control but not, needs to match the output of your HU. very easy to match really, what you need to do is, first turn this knob on the amp right down, then If the HU has a 'sub output level adjustment' feature built in turn that to 0 ( or the middle value) then set the HU speakers ( if your using them) to the sound you would like ( so low,mid and high adjustments ) then start the engine! and turn up the headunit as loud as it will go without distorting or the loudest you want to listen to it (with a decent sounding CD in, it will need to be something with pretty constant bass, if you want some test tones let me know and ill send you some.), then turn this knob on the amp up until the subs start to 'clip' (or sound bad!) then back it off a small amount.

20. lpf adjust controls the cutoff point of the low pass filter. so if you set it to 30hz nothing above that will be produced ( so thats good for subs) the exact number to turn to will be determined greatly by the subs but also personal opinion. when you get the subs ( or if you allready have) look at the frequency range listed ( or find it on the net)  it will look something like 20-22000 hz or whatever, turn the knob down as low as the smallest number listed here ( but i wouldnt go lower) . the lower you turn this knob, the less of the higher punch notes the sub will produce. so if you only want them to shake, not punch, turn it low!

sorry its so long but it kind of needs to be to cover everything. ( you might want to copy and paste to wordpad or something and print it! )

hope at least some of this makes sense, ask again if it doesnt!
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Re: change of plan
« Reply #2 on: 15 June 2007, 15:58 »
wot should i set it all to is wot i was tryin to say (sorry)
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Re: change of plan
« Reply #3 on: 15 June 2007, 16:14 »
yeah I was getting to that! ive got some more time now so look at my above post when you come on and I will have updated it.

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Re: change of plan
« Reply #4 on: 15 June 2007, 16:21 »
cheers mate your a dimond
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Re: change of plan
« Reply #5 on: 15 June 2007, 17:43 »
my subs r 20-500hz so wot do u think i should put the settings on, wot do you think will sound the best? thanx mate
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Re: change of plan
« Reply #6 on: 15 June 2007, 18:03 »
oh and the other thing was number 7 wot should i do there?
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Re: change of plan
« Reply #7 on: 15 June 2007, 20:26 »
number 7 looks as though its for strapping 2 amps to run one sub, if you get it wrong you will either know about it cuz the amp wont work till you switch it back or you wont know about it because the switch wont do anything. the latter is more likley but i couldnt say for sure either way.

I would leave it off because your only using one amp.

i would set the IFS adjustment at about 20. cutting off below that because your subs cant go lower.

and the LPF at about 40. so cutting off above that, but that is because i like my bass low and exact!

with that LPF setting you wont get much range of sound ( in theory between 40 and 20hz). if you want more range then up it a bit, but not higher than the top limit your subs can produce ( and I personaly wouldnt go anywhere near that high.)

but with those LPF settings if you listen to a lot of music with very low bass notes and not much punch it will sound better and you will be able to turn it up slightly louder than with the LPF dial turned up any higher.

so its really up to you.

« Last Edit: 15 June 2007, 20:30 by tommk3cab »

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Re: change of plan
« Reply #8 on: 15 June 2007, 21:10 »
The infrasonic filter is there for ported subs, as below audible frequencies (about 20hz), the sub enclosure can act as if it is completely open, which could lead to the sub reaching it's mechanical limits.  Not good.

The usual frequency to set the lpf to is somewhere between 80-100hz, but this is down to personal preference.  From about 100hz upwards, your midrange speakers will take over.  Setting it to 40hz will mean you'll have a bit of gap, and as the lowest freqency being played is 20hz, your sub will be covering a very narrow range.

As for the gains, it's very difficult to advise you on this, as it's totally dependant upon your HU, amps and even the size of your car!  I'd say start low, and gradually increase the gain until it sounds well balanced with the rest of your system.

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Re: change of plan
« Reply #9 on: 15 June 2007, 21:26 »
i have 2xsealed boxes and my car is a mk1 golf.so wot do u fink the intrasonic filter should be on?
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