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Offline Len

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Re: Mk3 tuning / mod advice needed
« Reply #20 on: 07 December 2006, 11:41 »
Well we both start at 50 mph in 5th then. You stay in 5th and accelerate, I will change down and leave you for dust!
So which is faster in the real world????
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Re: Mk3 tuning / mod advice needed
« Reply #21 on: 07 December 2006, 12:43 »
sorry to argue but i think an 8V is quicker than a 16V, i dont know the technical terms as to why it just feels like it is.

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Re: Mk3 tuning / mod advice needed
« Reply #22 on: 07 December 2006, 13:16 »
Put up or shut up!

I am willing to go anywhere thats safe (not on public roads) and race an 8v.

So how about it? Lets put an end to all this 8v is faster sh!t once and for all.

I have issued this challenge before but no 8v waster has had the guts to take it up!

So come on all you keyboard warriors!
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Re: Mk3 tuning / mod advice needed
« Reply #23 on: 07 December 2006, 13:41 »
Hi Patch,
I'm very keen on good handling, carwise its the most important thing to me.
Here's my instructions for optimising a mk3gti for fast road use...

Keep your wheels 15s or 16s - get whatever is lightest, i use vr6 bbs rims as they are lighter than the standard gti ones, plus they are dirt cheap 2nd hand. If 15"s i find 32psi front/29psi rear works best.

Change the bushes, especially the rear beam bushes (about £120 fitted), they go off after about 40k miles, so yours will almost definitely be knackered. poly or standard rubber ones, it makes little difference. Fronts are nice to do too, although the rears are almost always in worse condition on older mk3s.

Buy a suspension kit from a respectable company. My koni kit is great and was only £380. 40mm lower all round, top adjustable at the front. I keep it at about 50%. Check your top mounts, if they are even a little bit split or out of shape, get fresh ones. There's no point getting the suspension sorted if you are gonna use crappy top mounts.

Then AFTER all that, get the camber at the front set to 1degree negative and the rears set to 0.5deg neg.

Then do the tracking and keep it neutral, if anything maybe a tiny hint out toe out at the front.

Thats it. It should handle better than any mk3 gti ever did from the showroom,
providing your chassis & suspension components are all straight etc. :)
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Re: Mk3 tuning / mod advice needed
« Reply #24 on: 07 December 2006, 13:47 »
sorry to argue but i think an 8V is quicker than a 16V, i dont know the technical terms as to why it just feels like it is.

I regularly get to drive both, the 8v feels quicker for day to day driving - ie. changing gear at 4k rpms. The 16v is definitly quicker when changing gear at 7k rpms. The torque of the 8v does make it feel powerful, and it would do a 16v off the line until the 16v gets over 5k rpms .

Be nice to see an unmodded example of each next to each other at santa pod :)
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Re: Mk3 tuning / mod advice needed
« Reply #25 on: 07 December 2006, 16:37 »
Put up or shut up!

I am willing to go anywhere thats safe (not on public roads) and race an 8v.

So how about it? Lets put an end to all this 8v is faster sh!t once and for all.

I have issued this challenge before but no 8v waster has had the guts to take it up!

So come on all you keyboard warriors!


we are merely quoting vw material.... so argue if you like, but your wrong!!!

i am not saying the 8v is faster full stop as it isn't at all... but it is better when in 5th for overtaking, oh and some people do overtake in fifth,,,,,


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Re: Mk3 tuning / mod advice needed
« Reply #26 on: 07 December 2006, 16:43 »
I'm not arguing just stating true life facts! Rather than statistics!

If wannabe 8 valvers keep trying to big up their cars and wont take up my challenge, then you are just keyboard warriors without the convictions of the drivel they are typing on here!

So as I say Put up or shut up!
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Re: Mk3 tuning / mod advice needed
« Reply #27 on: 07 December 2006, 18:11 »
wtf is your problem,,,,
'keyboard warriors' and all that you make yourself sound like a d!ck !!!!
i was quoting a stat,,, believe it or not i don't really care what the 'real world' stat is...
this thread has been hijacked by your need to race an 8v... and putting down 8v owners,,, pretty sad really...  :angry:
now just shut up!

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Re: Mk3 tuning / mod advice needed
« Reply #28 on: 08 December 2006, 13:06 »
Well just stop saying the 8v is faster! Which you did and then quoted a stat to try and back that up!

It is a blatant lie and misleading to people who dont know the truth!

So its you that should shut up and not give out misleading cr@p!
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Re: Mk3 tuning / mod advice needed
« Reply #29 on: 08 December 2006, 14:09 »
Go Len go len its y birthday get busy!