ive used sh!troens dsg version, called the "sensodrive", fitted in my once owned c2 vtr, used paddles behind wheel, same as gti , and like the previous thread, the dsg system is the best by a country mile imo.horrid lurches, cant make its mind up what gear to select in slow moving traffic. i canot say a bad word against my dsg system, no going back to manual gearbox for me anymore!