thanks everyone for your comments, sorry for mentioning the f word, this will be my 5th vw having owned a mk1 cab, a mk2 driver and mk3 gti and I still own a t t25 camper. Just trying to think laterally about what to get next and the f word came. Most journos seem to think its better than a mk4. I think I'd prefer the cache of a vw though and as I'm getting older older the insurance on a 1.8t or similar shouldn't be too bad.
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