clifford alarm/immobiliser nightmare

[GTIrl]

cheers! im off to halfords right now. fingers crossed...

[GTIrl]

  nope, that didnt work. the new battery didnt make any difference aprt from for a few minutes the side indicators were flashing,, and it didnt try to lock me in when i turned the key, but it still didnt want to start. just nothing. red lights on the dash this time. but then i took the keys out fiddled about a bit and tried again, and its gone back to doors locking and no indicator flash.....
nnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrg!

[monzablue16v]

Time to get the yellow pages out and find an auto elctrician I would say then have you checked the earths and feeds to the starter motor?

[GTIrl]

yes, they were a little corroded but cleaned up ok i think.
i suppose im going to have to pay someone to sort it. Which im really going to resent. i could be throwing even more money at it whilst still not knowing if the car is even fixed engine wise.... see , there was a little problem with one of the cylinder head studs. just on the last half- half turn after torque it stripped the thread in the engine block. its not great i gather, could be disasterous. and its on the back corner. so the stud is in there at the moment at less torque than it should be. the washer was replaced with a thinner one so the stud could grab a hold of a little bit of un-stripped head.

hey, anyone want a golf gti???!! 11 months mot!! no?

ah well, im just going to have to gamble on it being ok, and pay someone to fix it i guess.

[j_s]

I had my Clifford 650 sorted out a week and a half ago. Most Cliffords being a pain are down to poor installs. The guy that sorted mine used to run the company that is the distributor over here in the UK (Directed)

I'll forward this thread to him to see if he has an idea for you

P.s he can't look at is as he is the opposite end of the country to you.


Edit: I've got a reply back from him:

Can you locate the actual control unit, and post the model of the unit, if no model sticker a serial number will do.
Take a photo of the valet switch and post that if you cant find the unit.
There is a possibility that it is the waso unit at fault, but tbh looking at the absolute abortion under your dash it could actually be anything.


He can help eliminate the alarm from the equation given the info above.

[GTIrl]

thats great, thankyou very much. i will take a pic this afternoon if your guy might beable to identify it. Yesterday with more fiddeling i managed to somehow (dont know how) get the car to not lock the doors when i tried to start 'er up (that joke is wearing a bit thin now...) now red lights come on the dash and the side repeaters occasionaly flash 8times or so. it sounds like the starter is trying to engage. there is a brrrr which i suppose is the petrol pump, a bzzz from the isv i think and a click futt which sounds like its coming from the starter. we changed a connection on an earth strap that looked a bit dodgey but now more head scratching. so now dont know if its still immobilised to some degree by the wacko waso, or if its not going to start anyway cos of starter problems. the battery dosnt seem to be flat. the headlights are still pretty bright. and stereo plays no problem....

[Judderi]

Ive got an idea which may or may not help. Turn the key so that the fuel pump primes and the isv buzzes. Then run a positive power wire direct from the battery terminal to the ignition terminal on the starter motor. If the motor is fine then it should turn and start the engine.

[GTIrl]

hmmm, now it doesnt go click-futt anymore. thanks for suggestions. all are very welcome. He is out there with his head under the bonnet right now trying to make sure the starter is getting power and working.
better go help....

[GTIrl]

ok, starter is working.

[GTIrl]

WHOOOHOOOO! SUCCESSS!!! he put the starter back on, and i started 'er up, and she started!! so, it musthave been the starter getting stuck somehow after the immobiliser was flukily un-immobilised. But all is not plain sailing although it atleast is on its way. The car started but smoked like crazy from the engine and makes a terrible tappety noise. is this just because the oil hasnt gotten around yet? i ran it for 3 or 4 minutes (revved it through 3000 a few times to reset the ecu) but i turned it off because it was making a racket and smoking. also water pisshing out because the o ring on the side of the cylinder head under the plastic housing (the o-ring i got from vw especially) but it doesnt seem to fit right. anyway thats minor but the tapetty sewing machine noise is more of a concern, and oh ye the smoke...
but im so pleased that it started at all 
anyways, i think the other problems are another thread.
THANKYOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP AND IDEAS!!!