Peugeot 306 GTI-6 or MK3 GTI ... Choices Choices

[AudiA8Quattro]

You can change the suspension set up on a mk3 easy for under 300 quid.
As for the BHP, the golf mag tested a load of vr6's a few years back, most were coming out around the 190bhp mark, and the 2.8 engine will produce buckets more torque than the 2.0 16v in the 306. VR6's are well known for producing considerably more than the moderate factory estimate.
I've driven a couple of 306 gti 6's and the chassis was good, but the gearboxes were ropey as f**k.
I owned a vr6 for 4 years, there's no way that a 306 gti 6 would of kept up with it on a straight road.

[jv]

What issue of the Golf mag was that?

[speedynz]

You can change the suspension set up on a mk3 easy for under 300 quid.
As for the BHP, the golf mag tested a load of vr6's a few years back, most were coming out around the 190bhp mark, and the 2.8 engine will produce buckets more torque than the 2.0 16v in the 306. VR6's are well known for producing considerably more than the moderate factory estimate.
I've driven a couple of 306 gti 6's and the chassis was good, but the gearboxes were ropey as f**k.
I owned a vr6 for 4 years, there's no way that a 306 gti 6 would of kept up with it on a straight road.

It wouldn't have been that far behind on a straight road (how often are you accelerating beyond 100+mph?) and come the twisty bits, well...................................point to point a well driven GTI 6 would laugh at a VR6 Golf, if not a Corrado. Subjectively a Golf VR 6 has so much more engine character, glamour, desirability and ownership friendliness if not quite the stunning overall handling/performance package of the sparky GTI6. You take your pick...................you can't lose here.

[AudiA8Quattro]

Just stating an opinion.
There's no way a 4 cylinder even tuned lump is gonna keep up with a v6.
Anyway i'm not into VW's that much anymore, i'm in to Audi's, and they have a chassis miles better than any golf including mk2's.

[AudiA8Quattro]

What issue of the Golf mag was that?

Years ago, i can't remember now.
Apparently OBDII is better tuned than OBDI.

[mowgli]

i'm in to Audi's, and they have a chassis miles better than any golf including mk2's.

I have to admit, my A3 1.8T was absolutely fantastic, the A4 1.8T was OK but not brilliant but it is a bigger and heavier car.  I had an Audi 90 2.3 20v many years ago and that was great all round.  I find the Golf (mk3) a bit stodgy to be honest and ours only has 70K on it so its hardly knacked.

Of my recent cars probably the best handling would be the 306's followed by the A3.  Bigger than that?  A 2.0 Zetec Mk3 Mondeo, don't laugh, read the reviews and try one they are pretty suprising though the bends.  E39 528iSE BMW wasn't too shabby either but the Mondeo just had more feel.

Yes, I've had a lot of cars. I'm currently on #49 which is a diesel Toledo, its brilliant not going to fill up every week as I can get upto 600 miles from a 55 litre tank.  But, its soul less and boring which is great for my 112 mile motorway commute at motorway-ish speeds.

[speedynz]

Just stating an opinion.
There's no way a 4 cylinder even tuned lump is gonna keep up with a v6.
Anyway i'm not into VW's that much anymore, i'm in to Audi's, and they have a chassis miles better than any golf including mk2's.

Your statements concerning 4 cylinder cars versus V6's are ludicrous and unfounded. As for your sentence on Audi's chassis being "better than any Golf's including the MK2's" you are clearly certifiable. Audi has only built one clearly resolved chassis since the original (ur Quattro) and that's the new RS4. Every Audi in between has had either spring and damper resolution issues or lifeless steering.

[HARDCOR3]

well sum1's talkin boll**ks, speaking from experience of having both cars, a VR6 would piss all over a 306 gti-6, straight line or not, the only "pugrot" thats ever been built from the factory, that would touch  VR, is a "T-16 205", of which your not likely to ever see, let alone own....
the only other "Pugrot" that would beat a VR, is an MI-16 205, Having also built and owned 1 of those, thats the only car i've ever had, that would beat a VR on acceleration and there's not really alot that would've stuck with that, especially round corners....

[HARDCOR3]

Just stating an opinion.
There's no way a 4 cylinder even tuned lump is gonna keep up with a v6.
Anyway i'm not into VW's that much anymore, i'm in to Audi's, and they have a chassis miles better than any golf including mk2's.

pmsl, you obviously, know what yer on about don't ya......









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[AudiA8Quattro]

Just stating an opinion.
There's no way a 4 cylinder even tuned lump is gonna keep up with a v6.
Anyway i'm not into VW's that much anymore, i'm in to Audi's, and they have a chassis miles better than any golf including mk2's.

Your statements concerning 4 cylinder cars versus V6's are ludicrous and unfounded. As for your sentence on Audi's chassis being "better than any Golf's including the MK2's" you are clearly certifiable. Audi has only built one clearly resolved chassis since the original (ur Quattro) and that's the new RS4. Every Audi in between has had either spring and damper resolution issues or lifeless steering.

A 4 cylinder engine will not and cannot produce as much torque as a v6 motor, thats a fact.
As for chassis on the Audi versus VW, every golf since mk2 has a chassis like a boat, so not much to compare to really.
Try the old Audi 90 20v quattro for example, miles better handling than most newer cars. Plenty other Audi models have good setups to.
I would say both the Audi coupe quattro and the Audi 90 quattro have a least as good a chassis as a mk2, if not better, and having owned 3 mk2's and a mk3 golf, plus a few Audi's i should know what i'm talking about. I have also driven a few pug 306's including a couple of gti 6's.
Out of interest,  have you actually owned any of the cars you are talking about?
And yes i must be mad for thinking an Audi Quattro is good handling car!!!!
Yeah alright mate