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2l_16v

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Re: horses for £500??
« Reply #10 on: 27 March 2006, 02:18 »
Hi guys,
Am new to this forum, I recently sold a mk2 campaign 16v, which I had converted to 2L for  the princly sum of about 200quid, I found a low milage mk3 16v engine with full vw history on ebay, was the much better ABF tall block found in the Seat Ibiza, cordoba and mk3 golf. I ditched all the crap i didnt need (box, inlet manifold, electrics) kept the alternator, water pump with the later belt pullys. I kept the origional 020 box put a new sachs clutch in.

I used the origional KR inlet, injection system, (exhaust manifold from the ABF) origional downpipe (no clearance issues)

sold all the bits i didnt use which paid for the engine.

drove the car down to Vince at stealth and he did the WUR mod, and adjusted the fuel pressuer.

Came out with 174.2bhp and 145.1lbs/ft

the conversion is so easy, the mk2 should have come out the factory with 2L!!!!!

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Re: horses for £500??
« Reply #11 on: 27 March 2006, 20:33 »
agreed- blag an engine crane and a set of splined sockets and its a simple job!

best thing i ever did to my engine is make it bigger  :smiley:
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Offline rowlers

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Re: horses for £500??
« Reply #12 on: 27 March 2006, 21:09 »
doesn't sound simple to me :embarassed:

terrified in case I  cock it up, and then can't get to work!!!

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Re: horses for £500??
« Reply #13 on: 28 March 2006, 19:06 »
 :rolleyes:when i mean 'simple'....i kinda meant that its not as if you have to fabricate new parts or relocate engine mounts etc. Really its just a case of planning the swap, giving yourself at least a weekend to take your old engine out and another to put it in and use the week in between to get the bits you need or broke!

The only probs i had were:

-Exhaust manifold nuts(no surprises there..) Mine were sort of a 12mm hex but half were already rounded off! After hours of cursing i decided to drop the subframe instead and yank the engine out with the front box still attached. This worked and is handy if you cant (or cant be arsed) to take the manifold/downpipe off.

-Timing the cam chain if you swap the KR cams into a complete 6a,9a,ABF etc engine. (as you torque the bearing caps down everything moves slightly. There are obvious timing marks to line it all up but it still took me 3 attempts!)

-These became insignifigant problems when i majorly forked up- i put an 8v box on and didnt realise the splines on the friction plate were different and when i fired it up...crunch! This involved taking the engine and box back out, swearing a lot and buying a brand new friction plate  :angry: Wouldnt want anyone to repeat that one!!


Seriously though, its complicated as far as 'righto lets take the engine out of the car' sounds. There is a lot of unbolting to do but the beauty with a 2.0 8v or 16v swap is that the engines blocks are fundamentally the same so everything bolts back on. Would suggest  a new set of engine mounts including an uprated or solid front one. You should get this all for £500 if you find a cheap engine (whole cars such as Audi 80s are often cheaper than a scrapyard engine) and still have change for some pagid fast road front pads and a £120 s/s manifold from feBay! :smiley:
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Re: horses for £500??
« Reply #14 on: 28 March 2006, 19:59 »
add another 200 quid and you could just buy this from me!






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Re: horses for £500??
« Reply #15 on: 02 April 2006, 14:05 »
Alfa?