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8v gear box ok for 16v conversion??
« on: 27 February 2006, 16:47 »
hi, just after a little advice! i am looking at getting a 2.0 16v lump shoe horned in to me mk1 soon, as i am on a budget, can i use the 8v gear box? the box seems in good condiction! now i am not bothered about top speed ( a ton will do me) but i would like a car that pulls well when over taking! will the 8v be ok?  :smiley:
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Re: 8v gear box ok for 16v conversion??
« Reply #1 on: 27 February 2006, 16:50 »
 :nerd: box will fit no probs but you'll need to put the mk1 flywheel onto the 16v engine

technically it should be quicker as the gears are a bit shorter - as long as you shift in time  :smug:

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Re: 8v gear box ok for 16v conversion??
« Reply #2 on: 27 February 2006, 16:52 »
sweet, i'm not doing the conversion my self! the car would end up in bit's forever!!! lol  :grin: :rolleyes:
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Re: 8v gear box ok for 16v conversion??
« Reply #3 on: 27 February 2006, 17:17 »
Its not actually that big a job, i'm going to do mine on the main road outside my house    :smug:

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Re: 8v gear box ok for 16v conversion??
« Reply #4 on: 27 February 2006, 17:21 »
i'm sure it isn't, but i dont trust me self doing it! i dont mind fitting ice, or changing the oil and that sort of thing! maybe i'm just lazy! lol  :grin:
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Re: 8v gear box ok for 16v conversion??
« Reply #5 on: 27 February 2006, 19:08 »
depending on which 8v box you get the ratios are the same as the 16v I know both the 86-87 8v boxs I have are the same ratios  other than 5th and according to http://www.scirocco.org/gears/ there should be a minor top speed increase on the 8v box  :smiley:

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Re: 8v gear box ok for 16v conversion??
« Reply #6 on: 27 February 2006, 19:16 »
depending on which 8v box you get the ratios are the same as the 16v I know both the 86-87 8v boxs I have are the same ratios  other than 5th and according to http://www.scirocco.org/gears/ there should be a minor top speed increase on the 8v box  :smiley:

 :undecided: i had a stock 1600gti on a jetta box which did 140mph @ 5000rpm - explain?

the mk2's do have the same box for the 8v & 16v - the extra speed comes from the extra rev's of the 16v - thats why they've got 160mph on the clock rather than 140mph :nerd:
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Re: 8v gear box ok for 16v conversion??
« Reply #7 on: 27 February 2006, 19:59 »
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i had a stock 1600gti on a jetta box which did 140mph @ 5000rpm - explain?
 

thats what youd call an optimistic speedo  :wink:
and the 16v 160 speedo is more than a tad optimistic for sure as I have never had a valver past 135 and damn I've tried hard  :grin:

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Re: 8v gear box ok for 16v conversion??
« Reply #8 on: 27 February 2006, 23:25 »
I have a 2.0 16v 6a from an Audi 80 in my '89 16v, using an 8v gearbox with an 8v friction plate and the original 16v flywheel/pressure plate..

After ragging it round for a few months i would say the gearbox is the weak link as mine is now whining like a trooper- wish i'd gone for a cable-change box froma Passat- these are stronger than the mk2 boxes. You need the pedal box though but if you are paying someone to do the swap i reckon its worth the extra hassle/cost. :smiley:
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Re: 8v gear box ok for 16v conversion??
« Reply #9 on: 27 February 2006, 23:35 »
And as for top speed i really doubt mine could do 130mph on either gearbox- dunno what VW thought the extra speedo space was for!

A 2.0 16v in a mK1 will be bonkers! Its loopy enough in a fatter Mk2...if its overtaking poke you want you aint gonna be disappointed  :shocked: :laugh:
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