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Re: redline magazine feature on jo's tvr/golf
« Reply #20 on: 28 November 2005, 17:41 »
majority of street racers i know race on closed lenghts of road and drive skylines, supras, Scoobys, M3s. Most of there cars can handle high speeds and very few accidents occour.

Majority of boy racers i know race around high streets and speeds far over tehre driving capabilities and cars capabilities and kill them selfs.

As for what id do if i was a boy racer, did you not read my above post  :wink:  Its obvious you have attended very few organised street racing events  :wink:

1. Closed roads, who do you know closes roads for people to tear up at high speed, councils, I don't think so!
2. Very few accidents occur, so that means that there must be some!
3. What do you know about other peoples capabilities, all it takes is 24hrs in a different car to know what it's capable of. If you don't know what your capable of, then you shouldn't be behind the wheel.
4. Your 'friends' with the Skylines and Subarus must laugh their asses off when you turn up, what do you race against!
5. Your'e right, I've never been to a 'street-racing' event, because they're illegal and are full of helmets!


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Re: redline magazine feature on jo's tvr/golf
« Reply #21 on: 28 November 2005, 18:10 »
nice open mind you have there.  :rolleyes:

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Re: redline magazine feature on jo's tvr/golf
« Reply #22 on: 28 November 2005, 19:07 »
majority of street racers i know race on closed lenghts of road and drive skylines, supras, Scoobys, M3s. Most of there cars can handle high speeds and very few accidents occour.

Majority of boy racers i know race around high streets and speeds far over tehre driving capabilities and cars capabilities and kill them selfs.

As for what id do if i was a boy racer, did you not read my above post  :wink:  Its obvious you have attended very few organised street racing events  :wink:

1. Closed roads, who do you know closes roads for people to tear up at high speed, councils, I don't think so!
2. Very few accidents occur, so that means that there must be some!
3. What do you know about other peoples capabilities, all it takes is 24hrs in a different car to know what it's capable of. If you don't know what your capable of, then you shouldn't be behind the wheel.
4. Your 'friends' with the Skylines and Subarus must laugh their asses off when you turn up, what do you race against!
5. Your'e right, I've never been to a 'street-racing' event, because they're illegal and are full of helmets!



I know I'm new around here, so my tuppence may not count for an awful lot but - SPOT ON!

nice open mind you have there. :rolleyes:

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Re: redline magazine feature on jo's tvr/golf
« Reply #23 on: 28 November 2005, 19:23 »
majority of street racers i know race on closed lenghts of road and drive skylines, supras, Scoobys, M3s. Most of there cars can handle high speeds and very few accidents occour.

Majority of boy racers i know race around high streets and speeds far over tehre driving capabilities and cars capabilities and kill them selfs.

As for what id do if i was a boy racer, did you not read my above post  :wink:  Its obvious you have attended very few organised street racing events  :wink:

1. Closed roads, who do you know closes roads for people to tear up at high speed, councils, I don't think so!
2. Very few accidents occur, so that means that there must be some!
3. What do you know about other peoples capabilities, all it takes is 24hrs in a different car to know what it's capable of. If you don't know what your capable of, then you shouldn't be behind the wheel.
4. Your 'friends' with the Skylines and Subarus must laugh their asses off when you turn up, what do you race against!
5. Your'e right, I've never been to a 'street-racing' event, because they're illegal and are full of helmets!



1. your nit picking, ass the members here who got to Basaldon, a close road is a road closed off on all exits to stop anybody from wondoring into the path of a speeding car

2. yes they do, But thats nothing compaired to the amount ive seen at "kroozes", last 2 months alone ive seen a a Polo handbreak into a light pole, a suzuki pickup truck flip while also being handbreak happy, a 13 year old get get splattered by car doing a burn out, another car loose it into a moped rider while doing a burn out, the list can go on if you like?

3) the people i usally drive with (some people on here have met them at MK) are more than capable of handling there cars, A lot of them are also regular attenders of track days, A lot of us also drive daily drivers, so where more than capable of knowing how cars handle.

4) my friends with skylines and subarus understand im only a young'un and on some occassions i have driven there cars (although rare). Although ive only held a valid UK drivers licence for two and a half year, ive got plenty of (LEGAL!) experence behind the wheel, I spent a lot of my youth driving go-karts and other smaller cars. My dad was also an acomplished driver on and off the street. He had a trophy cabonet filled with trophies from Go-karting, track day racing and Off road racing. I picked a lot off of him before he left.

5) Ever been to a 'krooze?' lot more 'helmets' there trust me. I think its pritty retarded to slag somthing off you have never been too. I can name 4 members here who attend the street races in bazaldon and although they dont race they have a good time and can back me up on the fact its a pritty good enviroment. Ive done the  big 'kroozes' and have the section 59 notice to prove it, Ive also been to the MASSIVE street racing events in birmingham where race organisers ware floresent jackets and use radios to communicated. at the street wars 3 event the police even pulled up to watch before eventually breaking it up after an hour. The convoy moved locations and continued again. 

I might be young, But at least i can hold up an argument without resorting to persional comments. Its not an easy subject to defend (and trust me its not the first time ive had to sadly) becuase many people think they know it all but its not the way its portrayed. I feel safer parked at the side of a road with cars street racing past me than in a car park with a 17 year old in a 1.2 nova on cut springs sliding about with the hand break on. I would love to go legal, Show me a way to do it cheaply (especially at my age) and id happy go Legal, In the mean time i make do with my resorces. I drive because i love to drive and i race because i love to race, i also love building my car to race. I will back up my driving skills to anybody who wants to sit in my passanger seat and go for a ride.

Oh and i love the comment about people laughting at my car. Great argument, Real mature :grin: Enjoy whatever it is you do for a hobby and i will enjoy mine. Would you prefer i sat at home smoking pot / coke like so many of the kids i went to school with? Or should i acctually spend my money on somthing i have to show for it? Think about this.

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Re: redline magazine feature on jo's tvr/golf
« Reply #24 on: 28 November 2005, 20:43 »
As I put on my other post, I'm new... and to be honest I'd like to stay around for a while :smiley:, this isn't a personal attack, just my thoughts...

I've not been street racing, and if I'm honest probably never will, I went to a cruise by mistake once (got told there was a car meet up the road so went along in my freshly polished mk1, looking all sweet and my freshly rebuilt splits... to find a load of muppets with quite awful barry-mobiles) and really won't go again. I don't understand how it can be safe to be around cars racing where there are no run off areas, no marshalls, no paramedics etc etc... just because track days and racing cost a lot of money it doesn't make it right to risk the lives of others because you can't afford to do what you want :shocked: - I'd love to do some track days, but haven't ever found myself in the situation where I've had the cash to do one, but I haven't been reckless enough to race other people on public highways because of my shortage in funds!

As for smoking pot... well that would be your choice, but you'd be likely to come to less harm doing that - and you wouldn't be a danger to anyone else. A guy I know quite well used to drive all his Dad's cars, ever since I can remember he'd driven proper quick cars (Ferrari F355 at 19?), one day whilst driving a new TVR  Tuscan things went badly wrong, and the driver of another car died. This was someone used to driving proper cars who made a mistake and someone else ended up dying - that sort of thing doesn't tend to happen very often when you smoke pot... 

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Re: redline magazine feature on jo's tvr/golf
« Reply #25 on: 28 November 2005, 21:01 »
no worries dude, like i said, i dont mind persional oppinions and i wasnt referring to you in the persional attack bit. But as you have been to a cruise you will know what i mean by how dangerious it can be with all the tossers sliding about in a closed area. At a street race the croud (usally) sit behind the cars or at leat only about 20-30 feet ahead of them, so once the cars really pick up speeds there usally clear. not always tho.

Sorry to hear about your friend, But it would be foolish to say theres no risk in driving fast, Of course there is, thats the attraction. As for smoking pot, i used to be really into it and so did my ex, And well, she might not be in a wheel chair for it but as shes about to get kicked out of uni for doing nothing but getting stoned every day id say its gonna be f**king her up a but :(

Im trying to find photos / videos of the latest street racing so i can show people what its really like. but then again, where all guilty of racing at some point, I will persionally post photos of my self in my boxers if sombody who truily loves cars tells me they have never raced sombody before.

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Re: redline magazine feature on jo's tvr/golf
« Reply #26 on: 28 November 2005, 22:29 »
majority of street racers i know race on closed lenghts of road and drive skylines, supras, Scoobys, M3s. Most of there cars can handle high speeds and very few accidents occour.

Majority of boy racers i know race around high streets and speeds far over tehre driving capabilities and cars capabilities and kill them selfs.

As for what id do if i was a boy racer, did you not read my above post  :wink:  Its obvious you have attended very few organised street racing events  :wink:

1. Closed roads, who do you know closes roads for people to tear up at high speed, councils, I don't think so!
2. Very few accidents occur, so that means that there must be some!
3. What do you know about other peoples capabilities, all it takes is 24hrs in a different car to know what it's capable of. If you don't know what your capable of, then you shouldn't be behind the wheel.
4. Your 'friends' with the Skylines and Subarus must laugh their asses off when you turn up, what do you race against!
5. Your'e right, I've never been to a 'street-racing' event, because they're illegal and are full of helmets!



1. your nit picking, ass the members here who got to Basaldon, a close road is a road closed off on all exits to stop anybody from wondoring into the path of a speeding car

2. yes they do, But thats nothing compaired to the amount ive seen at "kroozes", last 2 months alone ive seen a a Polo handbreak into a light pole, a suzuki pickup truck flip while also being handbreak happy, a 13 year old get get splattered by car doing a burn out, another car loose it into a moped rider while doing a burn out, the list can go on if you like?

3) the people i usally drive with (some people on here have met them at MK) are more than capable of handling there cars, A lot of them are also regular attenders of track days, A lot of us also drive daily drivers, so where more than capable of knowing how cars handle.

4) my friends with skylines and subarus understand im only a young'un and on some occassions i have driven there cars (although rare). Although ive only held a valid UK drivers licence for two and a half year, ive got plenty of (LEGAL!) experence behind the wheel, I spent a lot of my youth driving go-karts and other smaller cars. My dad was also an acomplished driver on and off the street. He had a trophy cabonet filled with trophies from Go-karting, track day racing and Off road racing. I picked a lot off of him before he left.

5) Ever been to a 'krooze?' lot more 'helmets' there trust me. I think its pritty retarded to slag somthing off you have never been too. I can name 4 members here who attend the street races in bazaldon and although they dont race they have a good time and can back me up on the fact its a pritty good enviroment. Ive done the  big 'kroozes' and have the section 59 notice to prove it, Ive also been to the MASSIVE street racing events in birmingham where race organisers ware floresent jackets and use radios to communicated. at the street wars 3 event the police even pulled up to watch before eventually breaking it up after an hour. The convoy moved locations and continued again. 

I might be young, But at least i can hold up an argument without resorting to persional comments. Its not an easy subject to defend (and trust me its not the first time ive had to sadly) becuase many people think they know it all but its not the way its portrayed. I feel safer parked at the side of a road with cars street racing past me than in a car park with a 17 year old in a 1.2 nova on cut springs sliding about with the hand break on. I would love to go legal, Show me a way to do it cheaply (especially at my age) and id happy go Legal, In the mean time i make do with my resorces. I drive because i love to drive and i race because i love to race, i also love building my car to race. I will back up my driving skills to anybody who wants to sit in my passanger seat and go for a ride.

Oh and i love the comment about people laughting at my car. Great argument, Real mature :grin: Enjoy whatever it is you do for a hobby and i will enjoy mine. Would you prefer i sat at home smoking pot / coke like so many of the kids i went to school with? Or should i acctually spend my money on somthing i have to show for it? Think about this.

Listen 'mate', can you read?

All you have done is reiterate my points, so self contradiction must be a word in your everyday dictionary. AND you've still not come to the fact that it's illegal, and highly bloody stupid. I'm 30 years old, why'o'why would I want to go to a 'cruise' when I have a fully functioning  workshop at my disposal. Like you've said they seem to be full of helmet kids in Nova's doing burnouts, whilst off thier t1ts on weed. The closest I've even been to a cruise is the monthly meet at Fleet with No-Rice, and they dont' shut off the M3 for a bloody 'race'. The fact still matters about you've still not justified the legality of this 'road racing', AND the fact of my initial reply, that YOU ARE A BOY RACER!!

If the personal jibes have upset you, then I apologise, but if you were mature enough then you would just rise above it.


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Re: redline magazine feature on jo's tvr/golf
« Reply #27 on: 28 November 2005, 22:38 »
Five words...

Keep It To The Track....

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Re: redline magazine feature on jo's tvr/golf
« Reply #28 on: 28 November 2005, 22:39 »
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Fielder you devvo with a bit more class  :grin: :tongue:
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Re: redline magazine feature on jo's tvr/golf
« Reply #29 on: 28 November 2005, 22:43 »
i never once said it wasnt illegal, But so are a lot of things, Skateboaring in the street, riding a bike down the pavement, Graffiti, being drunk in the highstreet. Everything is illegal these days.

This section of the argument removed due to a Tip off from a friend

im 20 years old and i wouldnt even wanna be at a cruise persionally, unless i had a reasion to go to one like to organise races or see fellow VW owners (see MK for example when a group of us meet up on the occassional sunday and have a dub section  :cool:)

But fair enaugh, I put my case forward, I guess in your eyes i must be a boy racer, despite the fact ive shown plenty of reasions why there is a differnce between boy racers and street racers, But i guess your well on your want to becomming a bitter old man, Whatever next, Complaining about the noise from next door?? Those young bastards keeping you awake at night?  :grin:

So you ever watched a Gumball rally? Or getaway in stockholm? Notice what there doing? one of the biggest forms of street racing around, infact that makes out meets look like kids playing in a park compaired to the driving. Watch a Tekademics video from america (they use the 850BHP yellow M3 from DTMpower.net as a camera car) now thats dam fast racing and dam risky too, cutting traffic at 140+ MPH in porches, BMWs and farraris :wink:
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