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Offline fredgroves

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Re: Possible return to a Gti!!
« Reply #10 on: 11 January 2025, 11:49 »
I doubt if you'll see much discount on a used 8.5 vs a new one (via dtd) because we are in the period where the only ones delivered so far are the initial dealer stock and the factory orders are still on the way.

Oh and don't forget the luxury car extra road tax also applies for all owners until five years

« Last Edit: 11 January 2025, 11:51 by fredgroves »
Current: Mk8 GTI DSG, Adelaides, DCC, HUD, HK, Winter Pack, Rear Camera.. Aka "HMS Weasel"

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Re: Possible return to a Gti!!
« Reply #11 on: 11 January 2025, 12:32 »

So I am thinking of buying a used one, but there are not many around. I do like the oyster silver or pure white version with Queenstown wheels. Also, I have seen a few GTis advertised by dealers with 4,000 to 5,000 miles which are only a few months old. Are these worth looking at or are they demo cars?

Any comments would be welcome on my thoughts on what I am thinking about colour choice, black styling and buying a used one that is only a few months old but with 4k to 5k miles on them.

I would be buying it with cash rather than on finance - any thoughts on that as I understand that no discount is offered on a used car.

Many thanks.

I bought a used one a couple of months ago that had done 4.5k miles. It had been the VW dealership manager's car so no worries about it being looked after. And I don't really think I would be too concerned about an ex-demo either as they have usually only done 2-3k miles and usually only escorted test drives. You will get quite a saving on a new one (just check on Autotrader) but when I last looked there were very few 8.5's available. Obviously even fewer if you are picky about colour etc. I had to drive 80 miles to pick mine up.

As a used car purchase, you won't get any new-car PCP incentives anyway, so I would just try to negotiate a bit off the cash price if you can. That may be difficult though. A slightly better chance of a discount if you have sold your current car already. In my experience, you will also get a much better price for your current car via Motorway than as a trade-in. In my case (I had a 7.5 GTI), it was £1600 more. Finally, ask the dealer what the car was priced at when it was first registered (i.e. was it more than £40K?). At least then you will know whether you will be looking at a much bigger annual tax bill!

Good luck!
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Gone: Mk 8.5 GTI in Dolphin Grey
Gone:2017 Mk 7.5 GTI, manual, black.

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Re: Possible return to a Gti!!
« Reply #12 on: 11 January 2025, 18:58 »

Is 6 months a realistic wait time at the mo then?
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The dealer has said they're looking at 18 weeks but I'm allowing for 6 months and anything earlier is a bonus.

Was looking through some old paperwork today.
The Mk7 Gti bought for the wife (hence the forum name!!) was bought via DtD deal. Ordered Oct 13 and collected Jan 14.
Spec'd wasTornado red, 18 alloys, heated seats, DCC, rear camera.
Discount was £3700. Price to pay £24500!!!!!
Now easily over £40k. Its mental.
Current,
2021 Audi S3 Vorsprung, Tango Red.
2020 Up Gti, Tungsten silver. (Early buy for daughter...who's 15!!)
Previous,
2019 Mk7.5 Gti PP, Indium Grey.
2016 Mk7 Gtd Carbon grey.
2014 Mk7 Gti, Tornado red.
2006 Mk5 Gti, Reflex silver.     Plus many more.

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Re: Possible return to a Gti!!
« Reply #13 on: 11 January 2025, 19:28 »

Was looking through some old paperwork today.
The Mk7 Gti bought for the wife (hence the forum name!!) was bought via DtD deal. Ordered Oct 13 and collected Jan 14.
Spec'd was Tornado red, 18 alloys, heated seats, DCC, rear camera.
Discount was £3700. Price to pay £24500!!!!!
Now easily over £40k. Its mental.

Mmm, but that was 11 years ago and inflation will do that! The Bank of England's inflation calculator says that £28,200 (your non-discounted figure) back in 2013 would 'now' (Nov 2024 is the latest month you can enter) equate to £38,682. So, the GTI has gone up by more than 'regular inflation' but not by that much... scary but true.
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Re: Possible return to a Gti!!
« Reply #14 on: 11 January 2025, 20:09 »
I've no doubt your right about inflation but its still a big kick in the nuts and my wages defo havn't gone up that much!!!!
Dont drink (much), dont smoke so got to treat yourself to something tho!!
Current,
2021 Audi S3 Vorsprung, Tango Red.
2020 Up Gti, Tungsten silver. (Early buy for daughter...who's 15!!)
Previous,
2019 Mk7.5 Gti PP, Indium Grey.
2016 Mk7 Gtd Carbon grey.
2014 Mk7 Gti, Tornado red.
2006 Mk5 Gti, Reflex silver.     Plus many more.

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Re: Possible return to a Gti!!
« Reply #15 on: 11 January 2025, 22:33 »

Is 6 months a realistic wait time at the mo then?

The dealer has said they're looking at 18 weeks but I'm allowing for 6 months and anything earlier is a bonus.

Was looking through some old paperwork today.
The Mk7 Gti bought for the wife (hence the forum name!!) was bought via DtD deal. Ordered Oct 13 and collected Jan 14.
Spec'd wasTornado red, 18 alloys, heated seats, DCC, rear camera.
Discount was £3700. Price to pay £24500!!!!!
Now easily over £40k. Its mental.
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Mine came through in 3.5 months and just picked up in December. I have a few options as well which didn’t seem to slow down anything. The newer ones now also come with the full Park Assist package as standard which I didn’t get, albeit I don’t think I’d use it. I am keeping my car for a long time so was happy to wait for a new one with the options I wanted.
Current: Golf GTI 8.5. Pure white/black, pan roof, Queenstown, DCC, HK, Area view, spare wheel
Gone: 2018 Golf GTI 7.5 performance pack with standard spec
Gone: 2016 Golf GTE 7
Gone: 2013 Audi A3 S-Line
Gone: 2010 Golf GT TDI

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Re: Possible return to a Gti!!
« Reply #16 on: 11 January 2025, 22:36 »
I know some of you chaps like to list your car history and after talking about discount/prices etc it got me thinking about some of the financial suicide I've commited over the years.
Below is my car history, good and bad, but feel free to stop reading here.

Feb 90  '86 Fiesta 1.1  (Mums car, crashed twice, she banned me)
              '89 Pug 205 XS  (Dad car, 'leased' from him)
Sep 95  '91 Ren 19 16V ( 1st car bought, £4900, sold  £4500)
Oct 96  '92 Ren 19 16V Chamade
Jul 98   '89 BMW 535i Msport
Mar 01  '00 Ford Puma  ( Ex demo, £10400, brilliant car)
Sep 03  '99 BMW 525i Msport
Jan 04  '00 BMW 330i Msport
Oct 06  '06 VwGolf Gti (1st new car, reflex silver, 18 Monza, £19k)
Mar 08 '91 Pug 205 1.9 Gti (£950, Sold £1100 after 2 yrs)
Oct 08  '57 BMW 330i Msport Coupe (Lemans blue, ex demo)
Nov 09 '98 Sub Forester (£1800 bad winter, kept 3 yr, sold £1200
Mar 11 '06 Audi A4 Avant quattro ( 2yr daughter, went sensible)
Mar 13 '61 Merc CLS 320cdi (Kept 2 wks, thot great but not me!!)
Apr 13  '13 Audi A4 Avant quattro BE (Bought in 1 day, see above)
Jan 14  '63 Vw Golf Gti (Bought for wife 😉)
Sept 15 '65 Audi S3 Saloon manual ( Nice but Gti more fun)
Nov 16 '04 Ford Fiesta (£500 runabt while SQ5 built, sold £500)
Dec 16 '66 Vw Golf Gtd (Wifes 2nd Golf)
Jan 17 '66 Audi SQ5 SE Plus (Last Mk1, good deal)
Jan 18 '67 Audi S5 Coupe (Part-ex Gtd, sold after 15 mths, BIG hit
Jun 19 '19 Vw Gti PP (Great car, sold as value increased)
Sep 20 '70 Vw Polo Gti+ (Wifes, lasted 3 mnth, missed SUV seats
Dec 20 '70 BMW X3 M40i (Ex demo, Wifes, loves it, wont sell it)
Dec 21 '71 BMW M340d (Ex demo, sold as value went daft)
Aug 21 '18 Audi Q2 Ed1 (Sensible buy, loved it for a year)
Sep 23 '21 Audi S3 Vorsprung ( Current and great car)
Feb 24 '19 Vw Up Gti 3 dr (Bought for daughter.... shes 15!!! 🤷‍♂️)
Feb 24 '20 Vw Up Gti 5dr (Replaced above which garage took back as had bad respray they weren't aware of!!!!)

Anyway, thats it and apologies if you've got this far. I honestly didnt think I'd had many cars but then you look back over it. I've done not too badly recently but there are a few big financial hits in there, but so be it, I like cars and obviously get bored after a while.
Roll on the Clubsport.

« Last Edit: 11 January 2025, 22:50 by GTI_for_her! »
Current,
2021 Audi S3 Vorsprung, Tango Red.
2020 Up Gti, Tungsten silver. (Early buy for daughter...who's 15!!)
Previous,
2019 Mk7.5 Gti PP, Indium Grey.
2016 Mk7 Gtd Carbon grey.
2014 Mk7 Gti, Tornado red.
2006 Mk5 Gti, Reflex silver.     Plus many more.

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Re: Possible return to a Gti!!
« Reply #17 on: 11 January 2025, 22:57 »
Ah, that was a lot longer than I thought.
I think I've used up my forum blether quota until the Clubsport arrives.
Current,
2021 Audi S3 Vorsprung, Tango Red.
2020 Up Gti, Tungsten silver. (Early buy for daughter...who's 15!!)
Previous,
2019 Mk7.5 Gti PP, Indium Grey.
2016 Mk7 Gtd Carbon grey.
2014 Mk7 Gti, Tornado red.
2006 Mk5 Gti, Reflex silver.     Plus many more.

Offline MarkHowells

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Re: Possible return to a Gti!!
« Reply #18 on: 14 January 2025, 21:03 »
Possible return to a GTi is now a definite return to a GTi!!

Just put a deposit down on a mk8.5 GTi.

* Oyster Silver Metallic Black with black roof
* Soul Black-Tornado Red interior
* 19" 'Queenstown alloy wheels
* Adaptive Chassis Control DCC in combination with 19-inch alloys
* Exterior Styling package Black Style with Matrix LED headlights
* Sound system "Harman Kardon", 8+1 speakers, 480W total power output, 12 channel amplifier, subwoofer

List price new is £45,365

This one is 4 months old and a demo car owned by a VW dealer with 4k miles on the clock and it was considerably less than list price.

I should have it by the end of the week or early next week, can't wait. The only thing that I am nervous about is that I have never driven an automatic or DSG before As my previous GTi's and R were manuals. As I am 64 years old, I hope it's not too late to learn!!

Also looking forward to being back on this forum.
Current: 2024 Golf GTI 8.5. Oyster Silver metallic black, black roof, Queenstown alloys, DCC, HK, spare wheel

Gone: 2018 Golf GTI 7.5 performance pack, Atlantic Blue, Santiago alloys, DCC.
Gone: 2014 Golf R, Lapiz Blue, Vienna leather, DCC.
Gone: 2011 Golf GTi, Reflex Silver.

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Re: Possible return to a Gti!!
« Reply #19 on: 14 January 2025, 21:46 »
That sounds like a lovely spec.

64 is no age at all, just a lad!

My present car was my first DSG or indeed auto.  Lots of different things to learn…….or just stick it in D when feeling lazy.

I have never tired of learning how to get the best out of DSG and am an enthusiastic user of the paddles and/or the flick into S and/or M as a means of controlling the car……not just for squirting past people.

When asked, I tell people I prefer DSG about 80% of the time over manual and that’s good enough for me.
2019 5Dr Mk7.5 Performance DSG. Indium Grey with DCC (and TCR spoiler)

(Previously two Mk7 GTIs, Mk6 GTI and Mk6 GTD)