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Re: Driving modes question.
« Reply #10 on: 29 October 2022, 20:13 »
It will be an illusion. No reason why turning the sound off would affect throttle map.

You’re probably going heavier on the throttle- without realising- because it’s not making as much sound.

Btw the modes change throttle map but available power doesn’t change.

Mode doesn’t change unless you select another

It seems to me as if there is a different throttle map between sport and individual, despite all of the changeable settings in individual being the same as sport the car definitely responds to the pedal more sharply.

I have tried eco and normal but the difference between all of them seems very subtle to me both in terms of throttle and steering weight.

Th car always stays on the same mode unless I change it.

My Mrs has an Alfa Giulietta, and the difference between the normal and dynamic modes on that is massive. Normal feels as if the handbrake has been left on.
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Re: Driving modes question.
« Reply #11 on: 29 October 2022, 20:21 »
When I’m sport mode and left overnight for example, the next morning it shows D but if I press mode it shows I’m in sport and D changes back to S. this is the same for all modes, eco shows E and after shutdown has passed a while it will feel like in eco but shows D! So is it still in those modes but just showing D? I do feel there is a difference though if it’s been in Sport and left and showing D to full sport.

What is D?
« Last Edit: 29 October 2022, 20:24 by Yusee »
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Re: Driving modes question.
« Reply #12 on: 29 October 2022, 20:35 »
It will be an illusion. No reason why turning the sound off would affect throttle map.

You’re probably going heavier on the throttle- without realising- because it’s not making as much sound.

Btw the modes change throttle map but available power doesn’t change.

Mode doesn’t change unless you select another

It seems to me as if there is a different throttle map between sport and individual, despite all of the changeable settings in individual being the same as sport the car definitely responds to the pedal more sharply.

I have tried eco and normal but the difference between all of them seems very subtle to me both in terms of throttle and steering weight.

Th car always stays on the same mode unless I change it.

My Mrs has an Alfa Giulietta, and the difference between the normal and dynamic modes on that is massive. Normal feels as if the handbrake has been left on.

Interesting. There is a throttle map setting on OBD11- I can’t remember what it’s called- which I selected some while ago and which- I think- sharpens the pedal response ( more than “ sport”)
Maybe there is more than 1 “ sport “ setting
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Re: Driving modes question.
« Reply #13 on: 29 October 2022, 22:53 »
It will be an illusion. No reason why turning the sound off would affect throttle map.

You’re probably going heavier on the throttle- without realising- because it’s not making as much sound.

Btw the modes change throttle map but available power doesn’t change.

Mode doesn’t change unless you select another

It seems to me as if there is a different throttle map between sport and individual, despite all of the changeable settings in individual being the same as sport the car definitely responds to the pedal more sharply.

I have tried eco and normal but the difference between all of them seems very subtle to me both in terms of throttle and steering weight.

Th car always stays on the same mode unless I change it.

My Mrs has an Alfa Giulietta, and the difference between the normal and dynamic modes on that is massive. Normal feels as if the handbrake has been left on.

Interesting. There is a throttle map setting on OBD11- I can’t remember what it’s called- which I selected some while ago and which- I think- sharpens the pedal response ( more than “ sport”)
Maybe there is more than 1 “ sport “ setting

Is that the one that makes the throttle linear or time based?

When I had Carista I tried both and couldn't tell any difference.
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Re: Driving modes question.
« Reply #14 on: 29 October 2022, 23:15 »
It’s under “throttle behaviour “ with 2 options- “ normal “ and “ responsive “
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Re: Driving modes question.
« Reply #15 on: 30 October 2022, 00:07 »
Just done a quick search and found this- no idea who this guy is- he doesn’t look old enough to drive- but he also feels there is a noticeable change in response- in all modes- with the OBD app.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BUKqrVN6rPY
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Re: Driving modes question.
« Reply #16 on: 30 October 2022, 06:38 »
It will be an illusion. No reason why turning the sound off would affect throttle map.

You’re probably going heavier on the throttle- without realising- because it’s not making as much sound.

Btw the modes change throttle map but available power doesn’t change.

Mode doesn’t change unless you select another

It seems to me as if there is a different throttle map between sport and individual, despite all of the changeable settings in individual being the same as sport the car definitely responds to the pedal more sharply.

I have tried eco and normal but the difference between all of them seems very subtle to me both in terms of throttle and steering weight.

Th car always stays on the same mode unless I change it.

My Mrs has an Alfa Giulietta, and the difference between the normal and dynamic modes on that is massive. Normal feels as if the handbrake has been left on.
sport mode is the same in either individual or sport mode.
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Re: Driving modes question.
« Reply #17 on: 30 October 2022, 06:42 »
It's a well known fact that disconnecting the soundaktor releases an extra 20bhp 😂
Soundaktor has absolutely no effect on the cars performance what so ever. The car usually starts in normal mode no matter what you were in before switching the car off.

All wrong.   Mine starts in individual mode each time, not normal mode.  The question isn't whether the soudackor being disconnected makes a difference, the question is whether being in sport mode has a different effect to selecting individual settings to sport mode within the overall individual mode.
wind your neck in! The first sentence was a joke or did it go straight over your head. Early mk7s used to have an issue where no matter what mode you were in before you switched off it would always revert back to normal.
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Re: Driving modes question.
« Reply #18 on: 30 October 2022, 09:30 »
When I’m sport mode and left overnight for example, the next morning it shows D but if I press mode it shows I’m in sport and D changes back to S. this is the same for all modes, eco shows E and after shutdown has passed a while it will feel like in eco but shows D! So is it still in those modes but just showing D? I do feel there is a difference though if it’s been in Sport and left and showing D to full sport.

What is D?

If you don’t have a DSG you won’t know.  D is for Drive, R reverse etc 😉



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Re: Driving modes question.
« Reply #19 on: 30 October 2022, 10:20 »
When I’m sport mode and left overnight for example, the next morning it shows D but if I press mode it shows I’m in sport and D changes back to S. this is the same for all modes, eco shows E and after shutdown has passed a while it will feel like in eco but shows D! So is it still in those modes but just showing D? I do feel there is a difference though if it’s been in Sport and left and showing D to full sport.

What is D?

If you don’t have a DSG you won’t know.  D is for Drive, R reverse etc 😉




I think you are confusing driving modes- which allow you to alter throttle response, steering response, sound and various other things- with the gearbox drive/sport modes. That is controlled from the gear lever and just alters the point at which the box shifts- sport just holds a gear for longer.

I have DSG on our seat alhambra- but rarely use “ sport “  because it’s a bus😂
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