Driving modes question.

[Yusee]

Must be a software problem if you’re both sure that’s happening.
I’d speak to VW because that shouldn’t happen.

it's not a software problem is meant to do it as has been previously mentioned by LSBristol.

Doesn’t happen in mine. Maybe there’s a problem with mine!

[Yusee]

Anyone still following this one?😂

I was curious at what people were saying here, so had a look in the manual-

“ when the ignition is switched off, the set driving profile and the individual settings will remain selected “

That’s fair enough, I think we all agree on that.

The next bit I think explains what @kpow99 has noticed-

“ if the last selected profile was sport or eco, the settings for the engine or the DSG dual clutch gearbox will be reset to normal as soon as the ignition is switched off. The settings of the previously selected driving profile can be activated again as follows:
- select sport or eco driving profile again
OR move the selector lever of the DSG dual clutch gearbox backwards to the gear position S”

LSBristol has noticed that he has to re-select “ sport “ while driving to get the throttle response back to “ sport” after he has turned the ignition off. I can’t explain this, there’s nothing in the manual to say this should be required, and it definitely doesn’t happen in my car. I wonder if it is a peculiarity of the DSG box?

[sjw]

This is the case in mine, and I am sure I've read on other forums etc that it is expected behaviour.

Ignoring individual mode for now, let's say you're driving in normal, then you change to sport. The steering gets heavier, the suspension firms up (if you have DCC), and the amount of time gears are held changes, which is indicated by the S on the dash cluster (S1, S2, S3 etc) rather than a D (D1, D2, D3...)

Now, turn the car off and on again, and the car, according to the mode select screen (and the indicator as to what mode you're in that's in the top left of the central screen) will still say sport. The suspension will still be firm, and the steering will still be heavy, BUT the "engine" has reverted to normal again, ie. you get D1, D2, D3 on the dash cluster. Opening the mode select screen and tapping "Sport" again (even if it's already highlighted) reverts the shifts to sport mode, but that aspect definitely starts up in normal, regardless of what mode you were in when turning the car off.

I hope that has cleared things up?

[Yusee]

@sjw, yes what you have noticed is what should happen with the DSG box- according to the manual.

What shouldn’t happen- imho- is a change to throttle map setting when you turn the ignition off. It should remain as you left it.

[LSBristol]

It definitely reverts to normal throttle mapping in mine.

I've seen other people have the same experience on other forums, but every single thread seems to have people getting immediately confused by DSG settings as well.

Maybe I should just get a pedal box 

[Watts]

Maybe I should just get a pedal box 

Yes.

[Kpow99]

Anyone still following this one?😂

I was curious at what people were saying here, so had a look in the manual-

“ when the ignition is switched off, the set driving profile and the individual settings will remain selected “

That’s fair enough, I think we all agree on that.

The next bit I think explains what @kpow99 has noticed-

“ if the last selected profile was sport or eco, the settings for the engine or the DSG dual clutch gearbox will be reset to normal as soon as the ignition is switched off. The settings of the previously selected driving profile can be activated again as follows:
- select sport or eco driving profile again
OR move the selector lever of the DSG dual clutch gearbox backwards to the gear position S”

LSBristol has noticed that he has to re-select “ sport “ while driving to get the throttle response back to “ sport” after he has turned the ignition off. I can’t explain this, there’s nothing in the manual to say this should be required, and it definitely doesn’t happen in my car. I wonder if it is a peculiarity of the DSG box?

Ah yes that’s it, going back to Normal mode! Thanks for finding that. Never use normal, either comfort, sport or Eco, never saw the point in a normal setting. You either want it sport, economical or comfortable, normal didn’t seem to fit with me.

[fredgroves]

On a manual box if you turn it off in sport mode (or individual if you have throttle set to sport in your profile) next time it will start with the throttle in "normal". The profile doesn't change, you get all of the other things (sport steering, DCC etc) but not the throttle map. To "fix it" you need to change mode.

If you have a DSG it will do the same but also the box will be back in D mode - its just that with DSG you can visibly see it!

Its been guessed that its to do with either emissions testing regs or that from cold its not good to rev the hell out of it.

That's how it works - its been like that for all of my Golfs...

[Yusee]

On a manual box if you turn it off in sport mode (or individual if you have throttle set to sport in your profile) next time it will start with the throttle in "normal". The profile doesn't change, you get all of the other things (sport steering, DCC etc) but not the throttle map. To "fix it" you need to change mode.

If you have a DSG it will do the same but also the box will be back in D mode - its just that with DSG you can visibly see it!

Its been guessed that its to do with either emissions testing regs or that from cold its not good to rev the hell out of it.

That's how it works - its been like that for all of my Golfs...

Interesting. You’re now the 3rd or 4th person saying this.

If that is happening-

1. It’s poor design- in that the user ought to be made aware that a change to throttle behaviour is occurring, and there’s no warning.
2. I wasn’t aware that it was, so I’d question the value of these driving modes ( I do anyway actually, but that’s a whole new argument!)

As it happens, i am absolutely sure this isn’t happening in mine.
I’m not an insensitive driver and have checked over the last few days-there is a distinct difference in throttle response between the various modes.
“ normal “ is noticeably less responsive than “ sport “ and mine remains in “sport “ every time I start up ( or actually “ sport “ throttle in individual). Definitely.

Now whether that’s because I set my throttle response to “ responsive “ on OBD11, or whether because of a change VW made at some point, I don’t know. But I’m definitely not needing to reselect my settings to get the throttle setting I want

[sjw]

What difference does "sport throttle" make in a manual car?