Front & Rear brake upgrade kits?

[Pchende]

Hi all

I currently own a 2018 FL (Non PP), Golf Gti. I am wanting to upgrade the brakes both front and back. Does anyone know of any company’s that do a complete upgrade kit “front and rear”. I have done plenty of mods to my cars in the past but am will admit i am a novice when it comes to brake setup changes.

Does the PP have vented rears or is it just the front callipers and discs that are different? Would i need to change the calliper carrier if i went from non pp to pp front callipers etc.

Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[joe6]

You will need new carriers and dust shields in addition to calipers front and rear. The dust shields on the rear callipers are behind the hubs which is a bit of a pain to change. The rears are vented. You can also add air ducts at the front if you want the full 'monti'. I expect someone on the forum can recommend a source of a kit. There is a thread on the forum somewhere from last year saying the upgrade is probably not worth the money as the calipers are still single pot and to look at other options. Personally found the pp brakes bite a bit better than non pp.

[Pchende]

Thanks for that Joe, thats what i am talking about it the other bits. I have seen mentioned a popular change would be to go the the TT s setup on the front. Which sounds appealing but as mentioned i haven’t  a clue what i would need along with part numbers. And if i do the fronts i would want to do the rears as well .

Fingers crossed someone will save the day. My local go to garage can do the rears as they did them on my previous Audi.

[madstaff]

Fronts are easy just needing the caliper carrier to suit the bigger discs, and the larger dust shield to suit.

The rears however are a bit more involved as I think the calipers are different because of the extra width of the vented disc, so the caliper is bigger to accommodate the (thicker) discs and pads.

[Paul70]

Revo are the only company that I am aware of offering a front and rear brake upgrade kit but it’s not cheap at around £3.5K and it’s designed for the PP so the rear upgrade would require additional parts. Personally I would focus on the front and recommend the Racingline stage 2 kit but it depends why you are upgrading?

The Racingline kit is so much lighter than the PP set up and it’s a four pot system. The car drives better (not just brakes better) with this kit, as there is around a 5kg weight saving per corner.

There are plenty of other options though.

[golfdave]

Don't bother with anything for the rear as even the TCR race cars only have 272mm solid discs...which are smaller than your GTI discs..


As for the fronts the easiest set up made for the MQB platform are the Audi TT-S ATE brand 4 pot calipers..uses the same 340mm discs as the GTI-PP/CCS/R...

Like this:-

https://www.killerbrakes.com/product/golf-5-6-7-gti-4pot-brake-kit-upgrade-clubsport-brake-discs-new-red/




Sold out...

plenty of other options on that site...like the Porsche Macan kit (requires 345mm discs) etc

https://www.killerbrakes.com/product-category/volkswagen-brakes/volkswagen-golf-7-7-5-brakes/

[Finglonga]

As above the rears are way to overpowered and do nothing as weight is thrown to the front on braking. Mine rusted to death before they wore out. PP brakes are the easiest option on the front and probably the cheapest by far and are very good unless you are tracking it every week.

[Exonian]

Reading down through this quickly, my first thoughts were soon echoed in the comments above, leave the rears unless doing trackdays or high speed autobahn jaunts.
Retrofitting refurbed PP fronts with TCR discs might be an economical option but if overall weight isn’t a huge concern then maybe a mk8 Clubsport front brake assembly might be desirable. I read that they’re quite heavy but they work (at road speeds) really nicely. I’m another that has modified cars all my life but never fitted uprated brakes for some reason. However the mk8 Clubsport brakes have genuinely impressed me as someone who has always been a bit “meh” with VW brakes. Cost might be prohibitive though.
Back in the mk5 days they used to fit Porsche front callipers and there was a guy who sold the kits via forums, before (I think) he went full time and I’m sure he’s still around. Then again I’m old and my memory is sketchy.

[madstaff]

The best thing you can do before going down this "brake upgrade" route it to ensure your brake fluid has been changed and filled with some decent spec fluid, and your running some decent, OEM at least, pads.

[Pchende]

Thanks to all for the input, a lot of you mentioned to leave the rear brakes alone i am guessing thats why theres not many full kits out there. My front discs will need changing in the near future. I would love to go down the racingline route but i think that may just be too far out of my budget. I was hoping to keep the spend to a minimum.

Think what set me off was seeing a PP car driving beside and the PP callipers looked so much better with the Gti logo on them than the standard red callipers.

The car is standard at the moment as its still under warranty but would be looking to go stage 1 in the future, thats why i was also thinking of upgrading. Car won’t be tracked at all, just a spirited drive every now and again.