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Offline Boothy1979

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Re: To buy or not to buy.
« Reply #20 on: 15 March 2022, 21:03 »
At least by the time it comes you may have one with no software issues and updated hardware
Plus you may find some changes to specification like led back lit controls for the heater
As for the deletion of options I was told once a car was ordered with a spec it would not come with any lesser /deleted specifications
Option deletions will only apply to new orders and the dealer should inform you if this is the case at time of order
When’s the face lift due ? Could you possibly end up with a face lifted car
Good luck with the decision

Again some valid points there. It’s that long away I have plenty time to reconsider or should I say talk myself out of it!
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Offline WelshGolf

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Re: To buy or not to buy.
« Reply #21 on: 16 March 2022, 08:59 »
That sounds like an incredible deal at the moment, I thought we wouldn't see discounts like that again for years.
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Re: To buy or not to buy.
« Reply #22 on: 16 March 2022, 09:07 »
I think its a bit early for a facelift... Even in normal times.

VW are a little bit stretched right now with Mk8 problems, covid backlogs, chip shortages and now wiring loom supply problems caused by the "Special Military Operation"

They have multiple assembly lines totally shut down at the moment!

Personally, I think you might be foolish to assume the date they have given, I'd guess its 18 months plus and probably even then with spec deletes.
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Offline BillSan

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Re: To buy or not to buy.
« Reply #23 on: 16 March 2022, 09:10 »
I agree that it's an incredible deal with the current state of the car market.  Maybe once you have it locked in, you can share details of where the deal arose.  Wait for it to be locked though - I wouldn't want you to get gazumped!
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Offline SRGTD

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Re: To buy or not to buy.
« Reply #24 on: 16 March 2022, 10:01 »
@Boothy1979; Fred makes a good, valid point about a longer lead time than Dec22/Jan; possibly 18 months. Lots of dependencies though affecting future lead times; e.g. size of the Golf order backlog to work through, how long it will take for VW’s supply chain to get back to anything approaching normality, continued impact of Covid (e.g. a new surge of cases in China has forced VW to shut down production facilities in affected areas; any new future variants affecting Europe could see VW taking similar action with the Wolfsburg plant).

If it does transpire that an estimated Dec22/Jan23 delivery becomes a May/June 23 delivery, then assuming VW increase their prices every 6 months or so, there could be a further 2 price increases on top of next month’s increase before you take delivery which increases the chance of the list price tipping over £40k.

It is a very good deal you’ve been offered and IMHO life’s too short to dwell on if’s, buts and maybe’s, but in your position I’d be assuming there’s a realistic chance that the list price could well be above £40k by the time you take delivery. I’d like to be proved wrong though!
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Offline Boothy1979

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Re: To buy or not to buy.
« Reply #25 on: 16 March 2022, 10:32 »
@Boothy1979; Fred makes a good, valid point about a longer lead time than Dec22/Jan; possibly 18 months. Lots of dependencies though affecting future lead times; e.g. size of the Golf order backlog to work through, how long it will take for VW’s supply chain to get back to anything approaching normality, continued impact of Covid (e.g. a new surge of cases in China has forced VW to shut down production facilities in affected areas; any new future variants affecting Europe could see VW taking similar action with the Wolfsburg plant).

If it does transpire that an estimated Dec22/Jan23 delivery becomes a May/June 23 delivery, then assuming VW increase their prices every 6 months or so, there could be a further 2 price increases on top of next month’s increase before you take delivery which increases the chance of the list price tipping over £40k.

It is a very good deal you’ve been offered and IMHO life’s too short to dwell on if’s, buts and maybe’s, but in your position I’d be assuming there’s a realistic chance that the list price could well be above £40k by the time you take delivery. I’d like to be proved wrong though!

You all make valid points and I’m under no illusion that that delivery date given will 99.9% not be the date it will arrive. The only thing I’m looking at right now is the price. I can’t get any other garage to get anywhere near that price and if I’m honest I have now come to accept that it will prob push over 40k. Even with the higher road tax it’s still an amazing deal.

The only other thing that I’m holding onto is the fact it’s all done over the phone so slightly protected by the distance seller laws. Means I can pull out and most likely get my deposit back. Plus I’m only 8 months into my PCP deal on my Standard MK8 GTI so not in any rush to get it.

She is calling me back shortly to go through a few things as I’m going to spec DCC as I’m going to end up in the 40k list price anyway so might as well have someone on there I want.

Really appreciate everyone’s comments on this, I tend to over think a lot on things like this so this all helps. 
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Offline Boothy1979

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Re: To buy or not to buy.
« Reply #26 on: 16 March 2022, 13:07 »
Done it! Ordered. So gone for pure white and DCC. Considered the winter pack but don’t have it in mine now and can’t say I have missed the heated seats from my last car. On the road price with DCC is £33,915.50! The nearest VW dealership has offered me a standard club with no extras at £37,800! This is through motorfinity and is BlueLightCard discounted. I asked about 4 times where is the catch on the price but said they go direct to VW. Shows how much garages are making on the cars!
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Offline Carl_45

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Re: To buy or not to buy.
« Reply #27 on: 16 March 2022, 19:56 »
Congrats. And I think a good decision at a (relative) bargain, like you said, worse case during the time it takes to come, if you change your mind you can make your excuses and cancel.
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Offline Boothy1979

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Re: To buy or not to buy.
« Reply #28 on: 16 March 2022, 21:14 »
Congrats. And I think a good decision at a (relative) bargain, like you said, worse case during the time it takes to come, if you change your mind you can make your excuses and cancel.

Thanks mate. To be honest I’m treating like it’s not going to happen and then when it shows up it’s a bonus. Had a VW garage call as I had out some feelers out to make sure the deal was the best out there, it is by a country mile, but the car that called said ‘you do know there will be a 14 month wait for one’.

Let’s see what happens. My name is down for any cancellations of earlier orders. One due in September that she thinks is going to be cancelled.
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Offline JB GTI

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Re: To buy or not to buy.
« Reply #29 on: 19 March 2022, 08:54 »
Done it! Ordered. So gone for pure white and DCC. Considered the winter pack but don’t have it in mine now and can’t say I have missed the heated seats from my last car. On the road price with DCC is £33,915.50! The nearest VW dealership has offered me a standard club with no extras at £37,800! This is through motorfinity and is BlueLightCard discounted. I asked about 4 times where is the catch on the price but said they go direct to VW. Shows how much garages are making on the cars!

Hopefully you won’t have the same “catch” as I did. I ordered a brand new fully loaded Mini Cooper S through a broker with a substantial discount (21%) The order was accepted by Mini and I got an order number. About a month in the order was cancelled by Mini stating they they were cancelling all third party orders to protect their own dealer network from supply issues. My take on this was they had decided they could make more money by cutting out the loss leader deals they had been happy to take to keep ticking over during the first covid lockdown because of increased demand from franchised dealers orders with far less discount applied and more profit for them.

Best of luck 🤞
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