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Offline Guzzle

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« Reply #20 on: 02 July 2020, 23:34 »
Mk7.5 cars come with 3rd generation MIB3 units. Still known as Discover Nav (standard) and Discover Pro (optional), but App-Connect is standard on all Mk7.5 Golf's except 'S' trim.

If you search the forum, it is possible to upgrade the MIB2 unit with a MIB3 screen. It was posted.on here only recently.
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« Reply #21 on: 03 July 2020, 13:43 »
The manual / DSG debate is completely subjective. You would have to try it out for a prolonged period I think.

I jumped to DSG for my R more out of curiosity more than anything else after 30 years of driving manuals.
I only had it a few days and was going up a slip road to join a busy motorway.
Someone flashed me to let me in that was going faster so I put the foot down not realising the car was in 6th gear.
The car seemed to take an eternity to switch down to 3rd and by this time I had joined the queue and had slowed everyone down behind me!!

I was mortified.

Similar scenario at a roundabout, my car pulled out into a gap and no power.
Plus with the DSG you can push the gear stick to the side and be in complete manual

So this was the sort of feedback / experience I was wanting to see and talk about as well as the people that love DSG and the people that would never have one... I’m quite open minded

I’ve seen people comment about the DSG being laggy / slow upon kicking it down and stepping on it... Some people have commented on this and said it’s down to pressing on the accelerator whilst shifting down and advised to lift off whilst kicking it down and then put your foot down... I’m wondering if you have also seen / tried this and noticed any difference?

Personally I like the idea of having Auto and it changing gear for optimum economy etc but also Love the idea of having it in manual for scenarios like what you have described where I can chose the gear I want with the paddles like you would in manual and kick it down a gear or 2 when I want to overtake or filter in etc... Dp you often drive in manual mode? If so when?.
When in manual mode are you still able to utilise Eco / Normal / Sport modes? Not sure what these modes are named in the VW yet

I tried to hire a DSG car similar to the Golf R before pulling the trigger but Avis that had Audi S3's to hire said they couldn't guarantee I would get the car I wanted. I just didn't want to fork out for something I later really regretted.

As for kicking it down. I think I've only done it that way a handful of times. I mostly use the paddles if I want to come down and don't notice that much lag. Remember in a manual car you can go from 6th to 3rd instantly, missing out the gears in between. The DSG has to work its way down through the gears hence what you think is a delay!

The delay I'm mostly aware of is going from drive to reverse. Sometimes it feels like an eternity. A quick 3 / 5 point turn isn't an option  :grin:

I'm not sure about lifting your foot off the accelerator before kicking down as that defeats the purpose. The car would naturally slow as soon as you do this. Anything I've read says always keep your foot on the gas while changing gears. As folk that are new to a DSG have been taking their foot off the gas like what they do in a manual while changing gear.

I'll give it a go and report back.

I just mostly leave mine in auto and then use the paddles for more control.
Every now and then I'll push the gear stick to the side and drive in manual mode. You can then use the gear stick to change gears by pushing forward to go up a gear or back to come down a gear or use the paddles. The only time the car will intervene is if you are in far too high a gear for the speed, it will step down to a gear that will work at that speed.

 
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« Reply #22 on: 03 July 2020, 16:24 »
Hi, I’m new to the forum

Currently in the process of selling my M240i and I’m looking to replace it with a 5dr GTI...

Welcome C3  :smiley:

Why would you change a 240i for a GTI out of interest?


I’ve got a tiny bit of experience with Golfs so I’ll throw in my tuppence worth.

Options wise, I’d not get hung up on them. Go for the best condition latest model car you can possibly afford.
The later the car the better the standard kit as a non scientific rule of thumb.
Personally I’d sell all the family silver and live off Tesco basic food in order to try and find a way into a very late car. Where there’s a will there’s a way.


I used to be a Dynaudio sceptic but am now a convert.
BUT few cars have the option and the standard kit is ok if you’re not an audiophile fusspot.
There’s a Helix subwoofer that’s available from VW which would do a good job of upgrading the standard kit if you find a car you otherwise love which doesn’t have Dynaudio as standard.

The Performance Pack makes the GTI.
The bigger brakes are useful when you need them most, plus they’re nice and progressive to use.
The diff takes a bit of learning but is really good, it rids the car of understeer and eliminates wheelspin coming off greasy roundabouts or out of tight country road corners.
Ignore the extra headline power in the early models, it’s just there to help justify the extra cost on the pre facelift cars but there are more significant hardware differences on the 245 bhp model.

DCC is a ‘nice to have’ but totally unnecessary. The cars are fine without it.
In fact I’m probably a lone voice but I really don’t rate DCC.

Infotainment discussions bore me senseless so I’ll skip that  :grin:
Again, if you can possibly scrape to a car with the later MIBIII I’d recommend it. CarPlay is good but is fairly ubiquitous in most modern cars(?)


Wheels, I love wheels.
Santiagos look sexy but are a pain in the bum to clean.
Brescias are nice.
If the car has standard 18’s it’s not that expensive to get half decent quality replicas in 19” if you feel you need them.


I’ve had four(?) manual mk7’s and the gearboxes were all good except for my 2013 GTI PP which would occasionally be a bit obstinate.

I’m now in a DSG.
I’d been curious about DSG for years so bit the bullet.
Now I’m one of those people that likes to buy something and lit just to work.
I don’t need 3000 programs on my washing machine, I don’t like my dishwasher to have unfathomable sequences of lights that may or may not tell me it’s going to run a program that’ll be finished before next Xmas.
I wasn’t one of those kids that sat piddling around with computers learning all the different ways you could find “shortcuts” into programs and sub-programs. I like to switch a computer on and be able to do exactly what I need to do without having to spend 15 minutes googling what comes as second nature to a nerd.

DSG gearboxes are utopia for nerds.
There are many ways of achieving exactly the same thing, be it paddles, throttle pedal kick-down switches, various directions of angling the gear lever and so forth.  :nerd:

Seriously, all you need to do is leave it in D, then when you want to go very fast just pull the lever backwards and the car will make progress far quicker than my brain can process. Then when you want to return your pupils to a normal size and decrease your blood pressure just pull it backwards again and calmness and serenity will be restored.

So yeah, get a DSG.
Or a manual, they’re both good.


Costs, well service costs are on a par with any other model of Golf except replacements of the bigger discs or extra VAQ servicing.




Oh, and I’d recommend getting an R not a GTI, it’s a much better car.
But the GTI is a great car.  :wink:



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« Reply #23 on: 03 July 2020, 16:29 »
Exonian......

If there was a "like" button.......I would press it...!!
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« Reply #24 on: 03 July 2020, 17:26 »
GTi PP over an R any day of the week. Much more engaging drive in a GTi. The R is a great car just boring to drive.
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« Reply #25 on: 03 July 2020, 18:08 »
DCC is a ‘nice to have’ but totally unnecessary. The cars are fine without it.
In fact I’m probably a lone voice but I really don’t rate DCC.

No, its not just you. I have had both with and without and am definitely in the "don't spend money on DCC" camp. Absolutely not needed on a Mk7, even with 19's.

As for DSG vs manual, I've had two manuals, but next time DSG for me. Wouldn't choose a manual.

Maybe longer term on a second hand car it could be expensive trouble, but nobody knows yet - the oldest 6 speed DSG Mk7 is only 7 years old, the 7 speed is even newer.

The 7 speed DSG on the facelift Mk7.5 is definitely better to drive than the 6 though.

And although I've not seen anyone with it on here, the software tuning for the DSG box really does make it a much better thing to drive. I would definitely be spending money on a DSG software upgrade.

Rest of the options, meh, as others have said, price, age, mileage and condition is how to buy a secondhand car. Forget the options, thats for new purchases only.

The Mk7 GTI is well equipped anyway, the extras are all just nice to haves, you aren't missing anything really by not having any of them. A zero optioned car is still more loaded than most other cars of a similar age.

I'd pick a Mk7.5 DSG (7 speed on the Mk7.5) PP and be done with it.
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« Reply #26 on: 03 July 2020, 18:14 »
GTi PP over an R any day of the week. Much more engaging drive in a GTi. The R is a great car just boring to drive.

Hmm, when I had my R after a while I’d have agreed with you. The latter half of my tenure saw me drive it less and less, mostly dual carriageway cruising (rubbish MPG and dull but competent feel thinking a GTD would be a better tool for the job) or stuck in traffic in city outskirts.
The decision was made to sell it, pay off my loan, buy a cheaper car and get a big TV with the proceeds.
That was three and a half years ago, I never did get the new TV and my geriatric Panny plasma lives on.

That last journey in the (almost) bald tyred R was a revelation.
I took it up the back roads between Exeter and just the other side of Taunton along the old A38, driving roads I was once fairly familiar with but had changed lots with housing and commercial estates sprung up where it was once fields and trees. NSL roads have become 40 and 30 limits, swooping bends had become roundabouts and junctions...
That swansong journey saw the very best of the R with a suspension that really came alive when loaded up, infallible traction, an über-responsive engine and that cosseting homely Golf cabin.
R’s aren’t dull, you just have to give them a workout once in a while.
I’d gone from feeling very meh about the R to having a sizeable hole in my heart when I walked away from it £20 odd K wealthier.

A mk2 Golf GTI is more engaging than an R, hell I’ve owned enough of them to know.
A mk7 GTI is a trifle more lively down below but it’s no more engaging. The engine doesn’t rev out well and even at standard power the VAQ can be overcome.
A TCR and Clubsport definitely more fun until the speed really piles on, but no more engaging if you actually open the R taps properly.

An up! GTI would be more engaging. Boy do I wish I’d bought one of those a few years ago.

Anyway, never mind all this Golf crap, check this out for engaging and affordable!!
https://www.toyota.co.uk/new-cars/yaris/gr-yaris-retail-offer?Customer=7843770&CampaignID=C7958&BrochureRCode=RC117902&TestdriveRCode=RC117904&SLVariant=SL1&utm_campaign=TGBYarisEmail4_3A_3B_Jun20&utm_source=CRM&utm_medium=email&utm_content=1SL1

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« Reply #27 on: 03 July 2020, 18:52 »
A mk7 GTI is a trifle more lively down below but it’s no more engaging. The engine doesn’t rev out well

This was one issue that irked me with my PP. Not that I drive my cars to that point very often but that made it more annoying, just as you got to the exciting part of the rev range you could really feel the PP engine give up. I've not driven my TCR as much as I'd have liked but on the rare occasion the revs have built up it has been very satisfying :smiley: It certainly overtakes quite smartly.
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« Reply #28 on: 03 July 2020, 19:00 »
Hi, I’m new to the forum

Currently in the process of selling my M240i and I’m looking to replace it with a 5dr GTI...

Welcome C3  :smiley:

Why would you change a 240i for a GTI out of interest?


Only reason is to reduce my monthly costs as I want to have something more practical as in 5 doors for if/when family comes...
Yes I could get a M135i and would happily do so however I would want the ZF8 box and of course options I like and to find the right M135i / M140i with what I like I would either be waiting too long or I have like be over the budget I’ e set myself which brought me back to VW as I loved my MK5 GTI and they are cheaper value wise as well as insurance and their great to sit in and drive and look at...

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« Reply #29 on: 03 July 2020, 23:52 »
For those of you that have DSG... what paddles you using?
Quite like the look of the red paddles seen on ControlCustomsUK Instagram page... (will figure how to add image in)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCI4ucQsIlq/?igshid=uqlqlszik2qf
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