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Offline Sootchucker

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« Reply #10 on: 02 July 2020, 14:12 »
Wasn't it just the 3 door that got it dropped back in the day ?
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« Reply #11 on: 02 July 2020, 14:29 »
Wasn't it just the 3 door that got it dropped back in the day ?

Pretty sure it was standard on both but got dropped from the 3dr a year or so later.
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« Reply #12 on: 02 July 2020, 14:34 »
Wasn't it just the 3 door that got it dropped back in the day ?

I'm 99% certain I don't have it on an 2018 5 door PP.....
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« Reply #13 on: 02 July 2020, 14:48 »
The manual / DSG debate is completely subjective. You would have to try it out for a prolonged period I think.

I jumped to DSG for my R more out of curiosity more than anything else after 30 years of driving manuals.
I only had it a few days and was going up a slip road to join a busy motorway.
Someone flashed me to let me in that was going faster so I put the foot down not realising the car was in 6th gear.
The car seemed to take an eternity to switch down to 3rd and by this time I had joined the queue and had slowed everyone down behind me!!

I was mortified.

Similar scenario at a roundabout, my car pulled out into a gap and no power.

I hated it and thought I'd made a really expensive mistake.
I posted similar on one of the forums and had loads of responses which helped a lot.

Basically the car doesn't know you are about to enter a gap in a fast moving motorway, or see a space entering a roundabout. It just wants to get you to 6th gear as quick as possible.

So you as a driver need to be switched on and take control in these situations.
In a manual you don't even think about changing gears it comes so natural.
In an auto you have this perception that the car does it all for you and yes it does but at certain times you have to take over.

Once you realise that it makes the auto so much more rewarding IMO
Plus with the DSG you can push the gear stick to the side and be in complete manual mode.

Heated seats are standard on leather cars and part of the winter pack on cloth seats. However the winter pack became standard from a certain year.

Infotainment, you had the Discover Navigation Pro that had the bigger screen, DVD player, hard drive that you could put songs on, voice control and I think VW bundled the Nav pro with Dynaudio at the time but maybe someone can clarify that. It was a £1300 option at the time and I can't imagine I'd have paid more for Dynaudio on top of that.

The smaller unit Composition didn't have the above features and you had to use one of the SD card slots for the map.
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Just to throw into the mix MIB I and MIB II. Around about 2015 they brought out MIB II units which gave the smaller screen a slightly bigger screen with better resolution and I'm sure the ability to have carplay

My wife had the smaller screen MIB II and I had the Nav Pro and to be honest yeah the bigger screen is better looking but there was no difference. We took her car away for a few days and by the end of it I certainly didn't miss my bigger Nav pro.
Same goes with Dynaudio I have it, she didn't. Cranking up the volume you are aware its different but for me not massively different.
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Offline Jim_mk7.5

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« Reply #14 on: 02 July 2020, 14:51 »
Wasn't it just the 3 door that got it dropped back in the day ?

I'm 99% certain I don't have it on an 2018 5 door PP.....

Keyless was added on for run-out models in 2016 I think and then dropped as standard for the Mk7.5 then made standard again for 2019. Unless it's a 3dr!
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« Reply #15 on: 02 July 2020, 15:39 »
Wasn't it just the 3 door that got it dropped back in the day ?

I'm 99% certain I don't have it on an 2018 5 door PP.....

Keyless was added on for run-out models in 2016 I think and then dropped as standard for the Mk7.5 then made standard again for 2019. Unless it's a 3dr!

Ah, that makes sense, thanks Jim.
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« Reply #16 on: 02 July 2020, 21:45 »
The manual / DSG debate is completely subjective. You would have to try it out for a prolonged period I think.

I jumped to DSG for my R more out of curiosity more than anything else after 30 years of driving manuals.
I only had it a few days and was going up a slip road to join a busy motorway.
Someone flashed me to let me in that was going faster so I put the foot down not realising the car was in 6th gear.
The car seemed to take an eternity to switch down to 3rd and by this time I had joined the queue and had slowed everyone down behind me!!

I was mortified.

Similar scenario at a roundabout, my car pulled out into a gap and no power.
Plus with the DSG you can push the gear stick to the side and be in complete manual

So this was the sort of feedback / experience I was wanting to see and talk about as well as the people that love DSG and the people that would never have one... I’m quite open minded

I’ve seen people comment about the DSG being laggy / slow upon kicking it down and stepping on it... Some people have commented on this and said it’s down to pressing on the accelerator whilst shifting down and advised to lift off whilst kicking it down and then put your foot down... I’m wondering if you have also seen / tried this and noticed any difference?

Personally I like the idea of having Auto and it changing gear for optimum economy etc but also Love the idea of having it in manual for scenarios like what you have described where I can chose the gear I want with the paddles like you would in manual and kick it down a gear or 2 when I want to overtake or filter in etc... Dp you often drive in manual mode? If so when?.
When in manual mode are you still able to utilise Eco / Normal / Sport modes? Not sure what these modes are named in the VW yet

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« Reply #17 on: 02 July 2020, 22:00 »
Also in regards to infotainment systems...

I understand there’s MIB I / MIB II / then I’ve seen Discover Nav / Discover Nav Pro? And this is available is both MIB I / II guises... Am I right so far?
And correct me if I’m wrong MIB II is a newer revised unit from the previous MIB I unit?
MIB II being the one having a slightly larger screen than the MIB I with some improvements on resolution and extra features such as CarPlay?...

Is Apple CarPlay on all MIB II units? or is this something that is specced with this unit as an extra?
Is Apple CarPlay something that you pay a monthly subscription for to use or is it something that once specced or if you have this you can continue to use?
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« Reply #18 on: 02 July 2020, 23:09 »
To get Apple CarPlay on an MIB2 unit you need App-connect. This also includes Android Auto.

This was standard on Discover Pro, or a paid option on Discover Nav. It can also be activated via the dealer if it wasn't originally specced by the first owner. There is no monthly subscription to pay. There have been a few instances where early Discover Nav MIB2 units aren't compatible with App-Connect, but later ones should be. Look for the App-Connect icon on the screen.

MIB1 are the first generation units and aren't compatible with App-Connect, MIB2 are the second generation units that were introduced to cars built after week 22 2015. MIB2 units also have a slightly larger and higher resolution screen.
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« Reply #19 on: 02 July 2020, 23:20 »
To get Apple CarPlay on an MIB2 unit you need App-connect. This also includes Android Auto.

This was standard on Discover Pro, or a paid option on Discover Nav. It can also be activated via the dealer if it wasn't originally specced by the first owner. There is no monthly subscription to pay. There have been a few instances where early Discover Nav MIB2 units aren't compatible with App-Connect, but later ones should be. Look for the App-Connect icon on the screen.

MIB1 are the first generation units and aren't compatible with App-Connect, MIB2 are the second generation units that were introduced to cars built after week 22 2015. MIB2 units also have a slightly larger and higher resolution screen.

Perfect! Thank you for this! Feeling much more knowledgeable now!

Next up is what’s the name of the much newer looking revision seen in the MK7.5s? Just so I have some knowledge on the differences

Seen 1 or 2 facelift cars in my budget but very few and far between so I think I’m going to stick to looking at 15/16/early 17 reg cars unless a 67 one becomes available with I’m he new digi dash etc...