Winter tyres

[mcmaddy]

I think the Michelin cross climate would have been ok for me instead of a full winter tyre. Considering its 8 years since we had snow this bad a full winter tyre doesn't seem worth it. For a tyre below 6 or 7° the cross climate seems a perfect choice and then for occasional snow it would cope too.

[I wanted a GTi]

I think the Michelin cross climate would have been ok for me instead of a full winter tyre. Considering its 8 years since we had snow this bad a full winter tyre doesn't seem worth it. For a tyre below 6 or 7° the cross climate seems a perfect choice and then for occasional snow it would cope too.

Hence my link to the video, full on winter tyres are not the best choice for people that are not guaranteed to get snow often.

[p3asa]

I've never known all weather tyres to be that good.
Jack of all trades but master of none 

[Daz Auto]

I've never known all weather tyres to be that good.
Jack of all trades but master of none 

The reviews often say that 'all season' tyres are relatively weak on snow

A lot of the youtube reviews don't compare winter and summer tyres. Many of the videos show how much better winter tyres are versus all season tyres on snow AND ice.

Many people say winter tyres are not worth it for the UK climate. Yes, we have had had several years of mild winters. However, I don't remember any recent winter without frost and black ice, in my area. There was 1 recent winter with just 1 weekend of frost. A local garage was full of crashed 4x4s the next week. And the NHS were recently asking for 4x4 drivers

I would not swap the winter tyres on my wife's car for all season tyres. To me, winter tyres are worth the hassle and cost, for the peace of mind knowing my wife's car is as safe as possible in winter.

[golfdave]

[Many people say winter tyres are not worth it for the UK climate. Yes, we have had had several years of mild winters. However, I don't remember any recent winter without frost and black ice, in my area. There was 1 recent winter with just 1 weekend of frost. A local garage was full of crashed 4x4s the next week. And the NHS were recently asking for 4x4 drivers

Again...so many people do not get the fact that the 3mpsf symbols tyres remain soft at low temps whereas M+S (not all) & summers do not remain flexible & go hard...thats why they slid on the thin black ice we get...also the 3mpsf usually have snipe/sipes which grip smooth ice better...

& yes LOL....at the NHS etc.."we want 4x4x dreivers"....yeah right....went we had the good 09/10...10/11 winters I was doing 45mph on compacted snow  & ice overtaking in 60 & 70 zones loads of big 4x4 SUVs on summers etc doing 25- 30mph with their wheels spinning like mad.....

correct tyres count more that number of driven wheels...that's what provides the GRIP...not the bigger number of driven wheels...idiots...

[Rhyso]

[Many people say winter tyres are not worth it for the UK climate. Yes, we have had had several years of mild winters. However, I don't remember any recent winter without frost and black ice, in my area. There was 1 recent winter with just 1 weekend of frost. A local garage was full of crashed 4x4s the next week. And the NHS were recently asking for 4x4 drivers

correct tyres count more that number of driven wheels...that's what provides the GRIP...not the bigger number of driven wheels...idiots...

^^^
My ex was and probably still is under the impression that because my A6 is 4WD it’s the more capable car
Yes.....because 255 wide SUMMER tyres makes it brilliant in the snow 

In all honesty though the A6 has impressed me a lot this last week. Not once did I get stuck and the only time I troubled the TC was if I was lairy with the throttle

Next winter it will hopefully be equipped with winter tyres and it will be more capable again

I’ve run winters on my previous 2WD A3 and that had more grip than my A6 with 4WD

[drisser]

Can only comment in my own experience but I have run continental winters for 3 winters now on my 330d, car with 420lb of rear drive torque and I can honestly say I wouldn't run any other tyre in winter.

Not just snow, they Perform better in cold and wet, and push far more standing water out of the way especially at speed.  Plus if you skid and bend a wheel in my case that means a cheaper 18 inch.

On keys a tiny bit of snow my gf couldn't get her A1 up the drive and my bmw sailed up no problem but I swear by them and given I have done 60k miles and am still on both original tyres and winters, I am sure that winter tyres wear better in winter than summers.

Never tried cross climate but feel they would be a compromise and better to have specialist tyres for winter and proper tyres for summer.. 

[mcmaddy]

I've never known all weather tyres to be that good.
Jack of all trades but master of none 

The reviews often say that 'all season' tyres are relatively weak on snow

A lot of the youtube reviews don't compare winter and summer tyres. Many of the videos show how much better winter tyres are versus all season tyres on snow AND ice.

Many people say winter tyres are not worth it for the UK climate. Yes, we have had had several years of mild winters. However, I don't remember any recent winter without frost and black ice, in my area. There was 1 recent winter with just 1 weekend of frost. A local garage was full of crashed 4x4s the next week. And the NHS were recently asking for 4x4 drivers

I would not swap the winter tyres on my wife's car for all season tyres. To me, winter tyres are worth the hassle and cost, for the peace of mind knowing my wife's car is as safe as possible in winter.

Take the snow away from the last week which to be honest doesn't happen that often unless you're in beautiful Northern Scotland then winter tyres would be worse than an the all weather tyres. As the tyre review video states full winters are awful on dry roads and only really out perform a cross climate in deep snow. Unless I've watched a different video.

[Restlessnative]

I noticed a number of drivers stuck in the snow who had not(temporarily) switched off their traction control.All of their efforts to get out were defied by the TCS cutting in.

[golfdave]

Take the snow away from the last week which to be honest doesn't happen that often unless you're in beautiful Northern Scotland then winter tyres would be worse than an the all weather tyres. As the tyre review video states full winters are awful on dry roads and only really out perform a cross climate in deep snow. Unless I've watched a different video.

That tyre review with the cars sliding down the slopes was bad IMHO...

I have run 3mpsf cert Michelin Alpin A5 tyres which are "winters", & they are great on dry roads, low noise, fantaistic grip, good mpg & beter than my summers in the same size! & I know people who run them all year. Any temp below +7C a proper 3mpsf tyre will outperform one which is not to that cert...doesn't matter if the maker calls it winter or not...its all about the certs....

I live in North Scotland & have run 3mpsf tyres on my cars since Jan 2010...so have some first hand experiance of varing dry, wet, ice, snow, slush, flooding etc...

Info on why the 3mpsf is better than M+S:-

https://www.goodyear.eu/corporate_emea/our-responsibilities/road-safety/winter-tire-recognition.jsp