New gti

[Daz Auto]

Even ignoring power differences the PP is worth it just for the brakes.  They look awesome and are awesome, same type as the R and the car is 100Kg lighter, so will stop even quicker (with the right tyres). Even from a safety viewpoint, I would choose it.

The reason I wanted the PP was because of the VAQ Diff. The brakes are a bonus.

Here is a video from Borg Warner about the eLSD. If you have 15 minutes watch 18:30 to 33:30 - https://vimeo.com/102644851

If you are having trouble sleeping try watching the whole video. I could not stay awake.

[Daz Auto]

Here is a newish youtube video on the Mk7 GTI PP VAQ diff - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiUJLN5_le0

Here is the old VW infomercial on the diff - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQqh2Tv5Puc

[Mark V GTD]

Nobody has mentioned the 7-speed versus six-speed box if you go for a PP with DSG!

[GTI_Ant]

Even ignoring power differences the PP is worth it just for the brakes.  They look awesome and are awesome, same type as the R and the car is 100Kg lighter, so will stop even quicker (with the right tyres). Even from a safety viewpoint, I would choose it.

The reason I wanted the PP was because of the VAQ Diff. The brakes are a bonus.

Here is a video from Borg Warner about the eLSD. If you have 15 minutes watch 18:30 to 33:30 - https://vimeo.com/102644851

If you are having trouble sleeping try watching the whole video. I could not stay awake.

Thanks - looking into this and considering the brakes you actually get a lot of technology for the 1 grand increase in price.  Does the R have this system between the wheels on each axle or is it just open diff?  It is interesting that BW state the unit is filled for life, yet VW require a fluid change every 3 years.

[physio]

Been to dealers today placed order ready for early March delivery , going on private plate ,
 So it’s up to them when they put order in
GTi PP  DSG.  5 door , tornado red , rear view camera , dynaudio ,dynamic light traffic sign assist
Guaranteed price on my trade in
Now begins the countdown 😀

[kalimon]

Been to dealers today placed order ready for early March delivery , going on private plate ,
 So it’s up to them when they put order in
GTi PP  DSG.  5 door , tornado red , rear view camera , dynaudio ,dynamic light traffic sign assist
Guaranteed price on my trade in
Now begins the countdown 😀

Really nice spec

[golfdave]

Even ignoring power differences the PP is worth it just for the brakes.  They look awesome and are awesome, same type as the R and the car is 100Kg lighter, so will stop even quicker (with the right tyres). Even from a safety viewpoint, I would choose it.

The reason I wanted the PP was because of the VAQ Diff. The brakes are a bonus.

Here is a video from Borg Warner about the eLSD. If you have 15 minutes watch 18:30 to 33:30 - https://vimeo.com/102644851

If you are having trouble sleeping try watching the whole video. I could not stay awake.

Thanks - looking into this and considering the brakes you actually get a lot of technology for the 1 grand increase in price.  Does the R have this system between the wheels on each axle or is it just open diff?  It is interesting that BW state the unit is filled for life, yet VW require a fluid change every 3 years.

In the GTI PP the Borg Warner FXD (Front axle cross differential) is a haldex type unit which is fitted on the UK drivers side front driveshaft after the existing open diff in the gearbox/diff case. It still relies on the existing XDS+ systems to get it out of situations as it has a preload & the TCR race cars which use this have a recommend preload of 50nm to 100nm. Servicing is buried way down in another part of the ERWIN workshop manual...oil change every 3yrs....

In the AWD "R" it is fitted on the prop shaft that fits between the front & rear axles..but in what is called the "final drive unit" which is where the prop shaft connects to the rear axle. The R still has an open front diff also.

The GTI PP, Clubsport, CCS, "R" & "R" performance all use the same 340mm size brake systems front & vented rear disc, same servos, same callipers etc...only difference is that the CCS & "R" performance use the 1kg lighter each two piece front discs & specific pads. ...Oh & colour of calipers & removable logo/name tag plate..