Are the Mk7.5 Headlights Different If you Spec Dynamic Light Assist ?

[Daz Auto]

Lots and lots of information on car headlights on this link - http://greyhead.co.uk/are-aftermarket-hid-lights-legal-in-the-uk

"So, these laws say you must have washers and automatic levelling only if the light source is more than 2,000 lumens total output, or the light is produced by LEDs (of any brightness), according to (b), above."

That article is March 2015. Has the law on LED headlights changed already?

[Guzzle]

LED lights don't require washers.

https://www.carlightblog.com/2013/10/22/a-clean-beam-the-purpose-of-the-headlamp-washer-system/

"It is a widespread fallacy that headlamp washers are only compulsory for xenon lights. This is wrong on several counts. The latest generation of xenon, the 25-Watt version, doesn’t actually need one at all. Meanwhile, halogen and LED headlamps do need one if their light sources emit more than 2000 lumens. Indeed, this is required for ECE approval."

As you said in a later post every day is a learning day and today you learned that you are not always right

I think if your read that article again it says that you are wrong.

The jury is still out on whether the LED lights on the Golf are above 2000 lumens. Maybe washers are just fitted as part of the winter pack. Though I'm surprised that VW didn't delete them to save costs if they were not required.

Washers are because of the Winter Pack.

The Golf GTE has LED headlights, and because there's no Winter Pack as standard it doesn't come with headlight washers. The GTE Advance model has washers because it gets the Winter Pack.

[I wanted a GTi]

Even back in 2014 the Peugeot 308 GT came as standard with led lights and no headlight washers.

[I wanted a GTi]

LED lights don't require washers.

https://www.carlightblog.com/2013/10/22/a-clean-beam-the-purpose-of-the-headlamp-washer-system/

"It is a widespread fallacy that headlamp washers are only compulsory for xenon lights. This is wrong on several counts. The latest generation of xenon, the 25-Watt version, doesn’t actually need one at all. Meanwhile, halogen and LED headlamps do need one if their light sources emit more than 2000 lumens. Indeed, this is required for ECE approval."

As you said in a later post every day is a learning day and today you learned that you are not always right

I think if your read that article again it says that you are wrong.

The jury is still out on whether the LED lights on the Golf are above 2000 lumens. Maybe washers are just fitted as part of the winter pack. Though I'm surprised that VW didn't delete them to save costs if they were not required.

Don't suppose the article could be wrong could it. 

[Daz Auto]

Don't suppose the article could be wrong could it. 

Is doesn't appear so -

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX:42011X1206(03)

"6.2.9.   Other requirements

The requirements of paragraph 5.5.2 shall not apply to dipped-beam headlamps.

Dipped-beam headlamps with a light source or LED module(s) producing the principal dipped beam and having a total objective luminous flux which exceeds 2 000 lumen shall only be installed in conjunction with the installation of headlamp cleaning device(s) according to Regulation No 45 (12).

With respect to vertical inclination the provisions of paragraph 6.2.6.2.2 above shall not be applied for dipped-beam headlamps:

(a) with LED module(s) producing the principal dipped beam; or

(b) with a light source producing the principal dipped beam and having an objective luminous flux which exceeds 2 000 lumen."

My parents new Merc has LED head lights and I don't think they have headlight washers. I wonder how Mercedes have gotten around the EU regulations.
 

[Jim_mk7.5]

Don't suppose the article could be wrong could it. 

Is doesn't appear so -

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX:42011X1206(03)


My parents new Merc has LED head lights and I don't think they have headlight washers. I wonder how Mercedes have gotten around the EU regulations.

Merc these don't seem to, my last car was current shape W205 C Class with LED headlights and no washers and guy at work has new E Class which is the same.

[I wanted a GTi]

Don't suppose the article could be wrong could it. 

Is doesn't appear so -

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX:42011X1206(03)

"6.2.9.   Other requirements

The requirements of paragraph 5.5.2 shall not apply to dipped-beam headlamps.

Dipped-beam headlamps with a light source or LED module(s) producing the principal dipped beam and having a total objective luminous flux which exceeds 2 000 lumen shall only be installed in conjunction with the installation of headlamp cleaning device(s) according to Regulation No 45 (12).

With respect to vertical inclination the provisions of paragraph 6.2.6.2.2 above shall not be applied for dipped-beam headlamps:

(a) with LED module(s) producing the principal dipped beam; or

(b) with a light source producing the principal dipped beam and having an objective luminous flux which exceeds 2 000 lumen."

My parents new Merc has LED head lights and I don't think they have headlight washers. I wonder how Mercedes have gotten around the EU regulations.

I don't know how Mercedes(and all other manufactures do it) no wait could it be because we are not in mainland Europe?  It's not rocket science

[Jim_mk7.5]

Don't suppose the article could be wrong could it. 

Is doesn't appear so -

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX:42011X1206(03)

"6.2.9.   Other requirements

The requirements of paragraph 5.5.2 shall not apply to dipped-beam headlamps.

Dipped-beam headlamps with a light source or LED module(s) producing the principal dipped beam and having a total objective luminous flux which exceeds 2 000 lumen shall only be installed in conjunction with the installation of headlamp cleaning device(s) according to Regulation No 45 (12).

With respect to vertical inclination the provisions of paragraph 6.2.6.2.2 above shall not be applied for dipped-beam headlamps:

(a) with LED module(s) producing the principal dipped beam; or

(b) with a light source producing the principal dipped beam and having an objective luminous flux which exceeds 2 000 lumen."

My parents new Merc has LED head lights and I don't think they have headlight washers. I wonder how Mercedes have gotten around the EU regulations.

I don't know how Mercedes(and all other manufactures do it) no wait could it be because we are not in mainland Europe?  It's not rocket science

There's not even an empty cut out for a headlight washer so I doubt they fit them anywhere in Europe.

[Daz Auto]

I don't know how Mercedes(and all other manufactures do it) no wait could it be because we are not in mainland Europe?  It's not rocket science

So does the UK have it's own regulations regarding car headlights?

Are Mercedes manufacturing cars to meet UK regulations?

I though we were still part of the EU (for a few more months) and still bound by EU rules and regulations?

It may not be rocket surgery, but it doesn't make sense. I like things to make sense.

[Daz Auto]

There's not even an empty cut out for a headlight washer so I doubt they fit them anywhere in Europe.

That makes sense.

I'm going to have a look at my parents Merc at the weekend.