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Re: Autocar: New Golf GTI versus GTI Legends
« Reply #40 on: 23 July 2017, 14:27 »
As someone said above its a journalist trying to get the sensational outcome.

I'm currently waiting for my facelift GTi to replace my 3 year old GTD. Am I likely to rethink my purchase of a brand new car with all the reliability, toys and prestige that brings to buy a 10 year old car they may need to be off the road regularly for repairs, quite simply no !!!
And I don't think anyone else is about to make a different decision to mine!

Of course not, I don't think that was the objective of the article, though haven't read it.

Truth is the MkV was a revelation after the MkIV and against any opposition, it has merely evolved since.

Having owned all models, I don't see many other 2005 cars that you could jump in & drive in and not feel  dated. It delivered it every area, performance, ride, the fabulous DSG box, brakes and yes build quality above todays VW's. 
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Re: Autocar: New Golf GTI versus GTI Legends
« Reply #41 on: 23 July 2017, 14:41 »
As someone said above its a journalist trying to get the sensational outcome.

I'm currently waiting for my facelift GTi to replace my 3 year old GTD. Am I likely to rethink my purchase of a brand new car with all the reliability, toys and prestige that brings to buy a 10 year old car they may need to be off the road regularly for repairs, quite simply no !!!
And I don't think anyone else is about to make a different decision to mine!

Of course not, I don't think that was the objective of the article, though haven't read it.

Truth is the MkV was a revelation after the MkIV and against any opposition, it has merely evolved since.

Having owned all models, I don't see many other 2005 cars that you could jump & drive in and not feel  dated. It delivered it every area, performance, ride, the fabulous DSG box, brakes and yes build quality above todays VW's.

Civic Type R, you don't need a dsg when you got a gear change like that.
5 door GTD in night blue collected 1/3/17

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Re: Autocar: New Golf GTI versus GTI Legends
« Reply #42 on: 23 July 2017, 14:48 »
As someone said above its a journalist trying to get the sensational outcome.

I'm currently waiting for my facelift GTi to replace my 3 year old GTD. Am I likely to rethink my purchase of a brand new car with all the reliability, toys and prestige that brings to buy a 10 year old car they may need to be off the road regularly for repairs, quite simply no !!!
And I don't think anyone else is about to make a different decision to mine!

Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.

Of course not, I don't think that was the objective of the article, though haven't read it.

Truth is the MkV was a revelation after the MkIV and against any opposition, it has merely evolved since.

Having owned all models, I don't see many other 2005 cars that you could jump & drive in and not feel  dated. It delivered it every area, performance, ride, the fabulous DSG box, brakes and yes build quality above todays VW's.

Civic Type R, you don't need a dsg when you got a gear change like that.

Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.
Arrived 15/5/17 Mk 7.5 R Lapiz 5dr DSG, Prets, Pan Roof, DCC, Rear View Cam.
Our other car is a Mk7 GTI DSG 5dr Tungsten, Vienna, Rear View Cam, Park assist.

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Re: Autocar: New Golf GTI versus GTI Legends
« Reply #43 on: 23 July 2017, 15:01 »
Sounds more like he bought a shed to me.
ive got a 2005 leon which has been in the family since new. Yes ive done some work to it. A CV joint, bottom arms(bushes) track rod ends and a wheel barring in the past 6 years ive had it. But the parts are cheap, a total cost of less than £100 so far. To have this as a backup car and one i use in the winters, tips and dirty jobs costs me less than £500 a year inc insurance, tax, mot etc, depreciation has being next to nothing In my ownership. Yet people will run new cars and have issues as can often be seen on this site and pay £2-300 a month.
I know a couple friends of friends who have bought mk5 R32s in the past 6 months who have had no issues but I know they did their homework first and checked the cars for common issues first including what you listed.
The car is actually quite a tidy original one but unfortunately they're getting quite old now and if you want to get them back into mint condition then unless you've been lucky enough to find one with an enthusiast owner who has spent far more than regular maintenance on it then you're looking at spending a good few quid.
This particular example has all its original paint, no rusty wings and a decent history but until you've got the thing up on a ramp you can't be sure everything underneath is like new. A lot of the money, in fact most of the money has gone on labour charges using the top local indie guy so we're talking not far off VW dealer money and using all original VW parts. It soon mounts up.
i'm selling my 06 mk5 in a couple of months, full sh but needs cambelt doing and a few little bits and only has 61k miles, anyone know what it would be worth... i'd keep her but i need a car with auto high beam :(
Spending £30k to get auto high beam could be deemed a bit excessive!  :laugh:
Good mk5's still have a decent following and don't hang about in the classifieds long. Depending on what else needs doing to the car you've got to be looking at between £4k and £6k I'd think.
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Re: Autocar: New Golf GTI versus GTI Legends
« Reply #44 on: 24 July 2017, 09:04 »
Sounds more like he bought a shed to me.
ive got a 2005 leon which has been in the family since new. Yes ive done some work to it. A CV joint, bottom arms(bushes) track rod ends and a wheel barring in the past 6 years ive had it. But the parts are cheap, a total cost of less than £100 so far. To have this as a backup car and one i use in the winters, tips and dirty jobs costs me less than £500 a year inc insurance, tax, mot etc, depreciation has being next to nothing In my ownership. Yet people will run new cars and have issues as can often be seen on this site and pay £2-300 a month.
I know a couple friends of friends who have bought mk5 R32s in the past 6 months who have had no issues but I know they did their homework first and checked the cars for common issues first including what you listed.
The car is actually quite a tidy original one but unfortunately they're getting quite old now and if you want to get them back into mint condition then unless you've been lucky enough to find one with an enthusiast owner who has spent far more than regular maintenance on it then you're looking at spending a good few quid.
This particular example has all its original paint, no rusty wings and a decent history but until you've got the thing up on a ramp you can't be sure everything underneath is like new. A lot of the money, in fact most of the money has gone on labour charges using the top local indie guy so we're talking not far off VW dealer money and using all original VW parts. It soon mounts up.
i'm selling my 06 mk5 in a couple of months, full sh but needs cambelt doing and a few little bits and only has 61k miles, anyone know what it would be worth... i'd keep her but i need a car with auto high beam :(
Spending £30k to get auto high beam could be deemed a bit excessive!  :laugh:
Good mk5's still have a decent following and don't hang about in the classifieds long. Depending on what else needs doing to the car you've got to be looking at between £4k and £6k I'd think.

yeah it's a lot but i'm a disabled driver so needs a must and all that. 4-6k sounds great thanks. we buy any car offered 5.3k so i'd probably take that as its less hassle... just waiting on vw to build it now :)

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Re: Autocar: New Golf GTI versus GTI Legends
« Reply #45 on: 24 July 2017, 09:35 »
As someone said above its a journalist trying to get the sensational outcome.

I'm currently waiting for my facelift GTi to replace my 3 year old GTD. Am I likely to rethink my purchase of a brand new car with all the reliability, toys and prestige that brings to buy a 10 year old car they may need to be off the road regularly for repairs, quite simply no !!!
And I don't think anyone else is about to make a different decision to mine!

Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.

Of course not, I don't think that was the objective of the article, though haven't read it.

Truth is the MkV was a revelation after the MkIV and against any opposition, it has merely evolved since.

Having owned all models, I don't see many other 2005 cars that you could jump & drive in and not feel  dated. It delivered it every area, performance, ride, the fabulous DSG box, brakes and yes build quality above todays VW's.

Civic Type R, you don't need a dsg when you got a gear change like that.

Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.

You've drove them then, when was the last time you drove an EP3?
5 door GTD in night blue collected 1/3/17

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Re: Autocar: New Golf GTI versus GTI Legends
« Reply #46 on: 24 July 2017, 16:58 »
As someone said above its a journalist trying to get the sensational outcome.

I'm currently waiting for my facelift GTi to replace my 3 year old GTD. Am I likely to rethink my purchase of a brand new car with all the reliability, toys and prestige that brings to buy a 10 year old car they may need to be off the road regularly for repairs, quite simply no !!!
And I don't think anyone else is about to make a different decision to mine!

Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.

Of course not, I don't think that was the objective of the article, though haven't read it.

Truth is the MkV was a revelation after the MkIV and against any opposition, it has merely evolved since.

Having owned all models, I don't see many other 2005 cars that you could jump & drive in and not feel  dated. It delivered it every area, performance, ride, the fabulous DSG box, brakes and yes build quality above todays VW's.

Civic Type R, you don't need a dsg when you got a gear change like that.

Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.

You've drove them then, when was the last time you drove an EP3?

Would think around 10 years ago, and I liked Hondas (Engines) had several CRX V-tech etc. Think I must have had a Clio 172 Cup at the time which was a great little car, terrific handling and not to bad a ride.
Arrived 15/5/17 Mk 7.5 R Lapiz 5dr DSG, Prets, Pan Roof, DCC, Rear View Cam.
Our other car is a Mk7 GTI DSG 5dr Tungsten, Vienna, Rear View Cam, Park assist.

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Re: Autocar: New Golf GTI versus GTI Legends
« Reply #47 on: 24 July 2017, 17:34 »

yeah it's a lot but i'm a disabled driver so needs a must and all that. 4-6k sounds great thanks. we buy any car offered 5.3k so i'd probably take that as its less hassle... just waiting on vw to build it now :)

Ahh, gotcha.
£5.3k hassle free would be a good route to follow so long as they don't start reducing the price quotes picking at minor faults which they have a reputation for. That perhaps varies from agent to agent but be wary of it.
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Re: Autocar: New Golf GTI versus GTI Legends
« Reply #48 on: 24 July 2017, 18:19 »
As someone said above its a journalist trying to get the sensational outcome.

I'm currently waiting for my facelift GTi to replace my 3 year old GTD. Am I likely to rethink my purchase of a brand new car with all the reliability, toys and prestige that brings to buy a 10 year old car they may need to be off the road regularly for repairs, quite simply no !!!
And I don't think anyone else is about to make a different decision to mine!

Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.

Of course not, I don't think that was the objective of the article, though haven't read it.

Truth is the MkV was a revelation after the MkIV and against any opposition, it has merely evolved since.

Having owned all models, I don't see many other 2005 cars that you could jump & drive in and not feel  dated. It delivered it every area, performance, ride, the fabulous DSG box, brakes and yes build quality above todays VW's.

Civic Type R, you don't need a dsg when you got a gear change like that.

Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.

You've drove them then, when was the last time you drove an EP3?

Would think around 10 years ago, and I liked Hondas (Engines) had several CRX V-tech etc. Think I must have had a Clio 172 Cup at the time which was a great little car, terrific handling and not to bad a ride.

The EP3 was and still is a great car, friend of mine had one when I had my Mk5 GTi and we swapped cars for two weeks and getting back into the GTi again showed how much it was behind the Type R dynamically. I wasn't a huge fan of the interior of the Mk5 either.
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Re: Autocar: New Golf GTI versus GTI Legends
« Reply #49 on: 24 July 2017, 18:35 »
One of my biggest regrets in life is that in 2006, I decided to buy a new car, and swayed by the trend for buying diesels, I opted for an Audi A3 170 TDi.
It was a great car in all fairness but why I didn't get a Mk5 GTI is something that pisses me off to this day  :sad:
Thankfully I'm now in a Mk7 GTI  :smiley: but what a wasted opportunity!!
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