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Offline JoeGTI

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Re: Bird sh*t
« Reply #10 on: 21 June 2017, 17:01 »
Yeah I'd be very careful of using any sort of drill attachment, anything with a rotary action, you could do a lot more harm than good. A decent DA is not that expensive and its a really worthwhile tool to have... makes very easy work of occasional bird crap / swirls removal.
Or you could try finding someone local who has one...
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Offline eatontrifles

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Re: Bird sh*t
« Reply #11 on: 21 June 2017, 17:12 »
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Good stuff, thanks. And yes, the drill kit is effectively a rotary 125mm pad attachment.
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Re: Bird sh*t
« Reply #12 on: 21 June 2017, 17:25 »
A recommendation from VWROC forum: https://youtu.be/guk5m6lcGRc
Oh, that's very interesting! Obviously you have to be mega careful and keep moving the heat gun.
It makes sense that it'd work as based on what I read (here), the etching is actually down to the lacquer heating and the grain under the sh*t leaving a mark when it cools. The car was left in hot direct sunlight on Saturday, Sunday and Monday before I could get it cleaned.
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Re: Bird sh*t
« Reply #13 on: 21 June 2017, 18:29 »
I know it's not about bird poo but I thought this was a novel way to get rid of a dented roof, and they didn't even dent it in the first place.

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Re: Bird sh*t
« Reply #14 on: 21 June 2017, 18:45 »
I've got the gtechnic ceramic stuff on mine and bird droppings don't stick, leave marks or anything and mines in a work car park all day in the baking sun.
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Re: Bird sh*t
« Reply #15 on: 21 June 2017, 19:17 »
A DA is your best bet, unless you are brave enough to try the heat gun method, which has been posted a few times on VWROC but I don't know anyone who has actually done it themselves, they just post the video but never try it, lol.  Even with a DA it can require something with a decent bit of cut depending on the level of etching, it doesn't always come out with a finishing pad and polish. When I polished my car at Easter some of the bird poo etching required a good going over with a cutting pad and compound, before refining down with finishing polish and pad.  You can try hand polishing but it will probably give limited results.  As Joe has said, I'd be wary of drill attachment backing plates and pads as the level of control is not the same as with a DA and nor do you have the random orbit of a DA which prevents burning through paint as the heat is dissipated via the random action as opposed to a rotary motion whereby heat can build up in one spot.

A medium cutting pad and medium cut compound will bring it out, and preferably followed up with a finishing pad and finishing compound to refine.  Meguiars 105 (cut) and 205 (finishing) is a good combo for this and many other polishing jobs, such as B Pillars, bodywork etc.

Sealants, waxes will not stop it happening, and even glass or ceramic coatings offer limited resistance depending on which coating it is. 
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Re: Bird sh*t
« Reply #16 on: 21 June 2017, 19:21 »
I have seen the heat gun application before never tried it but we'll worth a go being carefull to keep it moving around  :whistle:
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Re: Bird sh*t
« Reply #17 on: 21 June 2017, 21:05 »
Imagine my delight to come back to bird shiit on my rear door, just below the window line on my black Amarok this afternoon. Not even one week out of the detailers yet. I soaked some cotton wool in qd and held it on for a good long while before dabbing the caked on crap off, only too find that it too had etched the paint.

Not wanting to get the DA out for such a small area, I tried all of my Menzerna and Poorboys potions, but nothing would shift it. As a last resort I reached for a very old bottle of AG Paint Renovator. That shifted it on no time at all, but did leave behind some faint hazing. A clean MF, Poorboys SSR1 and 5 minutes later, all as good as new. I've not sealed the area as I intend to do a maintenance wash and get another layer of wax on at the weekend.
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Re: Bird sh*t
« Reply #18 on: 21 June 2017, 21:12 »
I have this issue on the NB R on the C pillar which is coated (all be it a few years old) so will be sorted by the  detailer.

Our mk5 which was black also suffered when i child put his hands on the car with sun cream

I am a fan of VW white these days as far less stressful

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Re: Bird sh*t
« Reply #19 on: 21 June 2017, 21:55 »
I have this issue on the NB R on the C pillar which is coated (all be it a few years old) so will be sorted by the  detailer.

Our mk5 which was black also suffered when i child put his hands on the car with sun cream

I am a fan of VW white these days as far less stressful

Sun cream is lethal stuff on car paintwork.
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