How many miles for running in?

[boydeee]

Don't baby the engine or run it in on motorway miles sat in 6th, barely ticking over either. Did that on one Golf and the oil consumption was very high (a litre per 1000 miles), with the fuel consumption pretty low.

Varied engine speeds is the key. I wasn't particularly gentle with my R and I get good (relatively) fuel consumption and it doesn't use a drop of oil between services. The last few VWs i've had have noticeably opened up around 700 miles - I do wonder whether VW build in a "first 1000km" run in program within the ECU on recent VWs.

We know they are creative with software, so it could be the case 

 

[Mike J]

I tend to agree with the software theory above.
It certainly seemed that my car adjusted itself to my 'style' after 7-800miles.

I drove it quite carefully (under 3,500 in all gears, no speeding or gearbox decelerations) until I felt the engine freeing up and everything running smoothly after which I have gently progressed to working the car as intended.

Wheelspin is still a small problem as is controling the highend pick-up when overtaking but with 1200 on the clock its a superb drive and everything I expected from it.
Still set on economy btw.


Trying very hard not to love it to much as the last one I did that the car was written off by a red light jumper!

 

[jv]

From the Manual:

"Running-in
From 1,000 to 1,500 kilometres, gradually increase driving performance to top speed and highest engine speed."

Sorry officer, the book made me do it.

[Talk-torque]

From the Manual:

"Running-in
From 1,000 to 1,500 kilometres, gradually increase driving performance to top speed and highest engine speed."

Sorry officer, the book made me do it.

My car seems to think it's in Germany, sometimes!

[volkswizard]

I do wonder whether VW build in a "first 1000km" run in program within the ECU on recent VWs.

I hope not because my CSS is a bloody handful already at 170 miles!

[Booth11]

Don't baby the engine or run it in on motorway miles sat in 6th, barely ticking over either. Did that on one Golf and the oil consumption was very high (a litre per 1000 miles), with the fuel consumption pretty low.

Varied engine speeds is the key. I wasn't particularly gentle with my R and I get good (relatively) fuel consumption and it doesn't use a drop of oil between services. The last few VWs i've had have noticeably opened up around 700 miles - I do wonder whether VW build in a "first 1000km" run in program within the ECU on recent VWs.

+1.  Didn't baby my R, drove it from the off in a varied manner/speeds, and engine always up to 90° before pushing it, and first noticeable loosening up came at 650 miles (636 to be precise).  Not used any oil between services.  Now at 9k mikes now the car feels sublime.

[monkeyhanger]

Don't baby the engine or run it in on motorway miles sat in 6th, barely ticking over either. Did that on one Golf and the oil consumption was very high (a litre per 1000 miles), with the fuel consumption pretty low.

Varied engine speeds is the key. I wasn't particularly gentle with my R and I get good (relatively) fuel consumption and it doesn't use a drop of oil between services. The last few VWs i've had have noticeably opened up around 700 miles - I do wonder whether VW build in a "first 1000km" run in program within the ECU on recent VWs.

+1.  Didn't baby my R, drove it from the off in a varied manner/speeds, and engine always up to 90° before pushing it, and first noticeable loosening up came at 650 miles (636 to be precise).  Not used any oil between services.  Now at 9k mikes now the car feels sublime.

Well 621 miles = 1000km. My second Scirocco (170TDI), my GTD and my R have all suddenly opened up around this stage, as if they were being held back before this stage.

What I did notice with the introduction of the MK7 also is that the car does hold back somewhat when cold. There's a sliproad onto a dual carriageway that I use to make acceleration comparisons between my cars (to see what speed I reach when passing a certain signpost), and my Scirocco 170TDI was not held back in any way - it was a smidge quicker than the GTD when they were both a little cold (i've never cold raced my R), but the warmed GTD was a bit quicker than the warmed Scirocco.

There are all kinds of things going on with the software running the engine. I still don't know under what circumstances the R refuses to let the stop start kick-in at a junction/traffic light controlled roundabout. It is usually when the car has just been driven enthusiastically (understandable, as the turbo might be a touch warm), but not always.

[Booth11]

+1.  Didn't baby my R, drove it from the off in a varied manner/speeds, and engine always up to 90° before pushing it, and first noticeable loosening up came at 650 miles (636 to be precise).  Not used any oil between services.  Now at 9k mikes now the car feels sublime.

Well 621 miles = 1000km. My second Scirocco (170TDI), my GTD and my R have all suddenly opened up around this stage, as if they were being held back before this stage.

There are all kinds of things going on with the software running the engine. I still don't know under what circumstances the R refuses to let the stop start kick-in at a junction/traffic light controlled roundabout. It is usually when the car has just been driven enthusiastically (understandable, as the turbo might be a touch warm), but not always.

I don't know either but it's a moot point for me as I hate Stop/Start and for every journey it gets switched off straight after ignition is on, it's now as much as my routine as fastening the seatbelt.

[monkeyhanger]

+1.  Didn't baby my R, drove it from the off in a varied manner/speeds, and engine always up to 90° before pushing it, and first noticeable loosening up came at 650 miles (636 to be precise).  Not used any oil between services.  Now at 9k mikes now the car feels sublime.

Well 621 miles = 1000km. My second Scirocco (170TDI), my GTD and my R have all suddenly opened up around this stage, as if they were being held back before this stage.

There are all kinds of things going on with the software running the engine. I still don't know under what circumstances the R refuses to let the stop start kick-in at a junction/traffic light controlled roundabout. It is usually when the car has just been driven enthusiastically (understandable, as the turbo might be a touch warm), but not always.

I don't know either but it's a moot point for me as I hate Stop/Start and for every journey it gets switched off straight after ignition is on, it's now as much as my routine as fastening the seatbelt.

Maybe it's a DSG thing with the hate for stop start. Don't mind it at all in mine - the car starts up when you dip the clutch to select 1st and by the time you're ready to go it is running, whereas with DSG, the car doesn't know you want to move off until you press the accelerator and you can't move off for 3/4 a second while the car splutters into life. With the manual, you stop and as soon as you see the lights changing to red for the traffic you've been waiting for, you can be ready to move off by dipping the clutch, it feels seamless on the manual.

I don't like it on my Dad's DSG GTD for the very reason that you're seemingly waiting an age for the car to react to your accelerator prod (3/4 of a second sometimes seems like an age when you're looking to move away from a roundabout (maybe another reason why the manual can be a bit more economical if DSGers have a general preference to turn stop-start off?).

[Booth11]

+1.  Didn't baby my R, drove it from the off in a varied manner/speeds, and engine always up to 90° before pushing it, and first noticeable loosening up came at 650 miles (636 to be precise).  Not used any oil between services.  Now at 9k mikes now the car feels sublime.

Well 621 miles = 1000km. My second Scirocco (170TDI), my GTD and my R have all suddenly opened up around this stage, as if they were being held back before this stage.

There are all kinds of things going on with the software running the engine. I still don't know under what circumstances the R refuses to let the stop start kick-in at a junction/traffic light controlled roundabout. It is usually when the car has just been driven enthusiastically (understandable, as the turbo might be a touch warm), but not always.

I don't know either but it's a moot point for me as I hate Stop/Start and for every journey it gets switched off straight after ignition is on, it's now as much as my routine as fastening the seatbelt.

Maybe it's a DSG thing with the hate for stop start. Don't mind it at all in mine - the car starts up when you dip the clutch to select 1st and by the time you're ready to go it is running, whereas with DSG, the car doesn't know you want to move off until you press the accelerator and you can't move off for 3/4 a second while the car splutters into life. With the manual, you stop and as soon as you see the lights changing to red for the traffic you've been waiting for, you can be ready to move off by dipping the clutch, it feels seamless on the manual.

I don't like it on my Dad's DSG GTD for the very reason that you're seemingly waiting an age for the car to react to your accelerator prod (3/4 of a second sometimes seems like an age when you're looking to move away from a roundabout (maybe another reason why the manual can be a bit more economical if DSGers have a general preference to turn stop-start off?).

I think there might be something in what you say.  I just couldn't stand that part second delay just when you most want instant acceleration.  However with DSG a light touch on the brake pedal or a wiggle of the steering wheel will stop it from kicking in altogether, I just can't be bothered with that and prefer to just disable it.  If I ever get around to getting VCDS or OBDEleven then ill completely disable it.  Some have reported that S/S kicks in whilst they are still moving but I've never had that. Truth is there are so many variables that it is almost impossible to second guess the parameters around it. 

As for mpg, mine is pretty crap anyway - long term between 19-21mpg,  and a long ago accepted fact, so the impact of switching off S/S is not a concern.