Author Topic: Wheel Spacers !!!!! yup again lol  (Read 6581 times)

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Re: Wheel Spacers !!!!! yup again lol
« Reply #20 on: 09 March 2016, 16:02 »
I am running 8mm at the moment on the R (which is lowered) and a huge improvement with the stock prets which looked a little lost.

I have H&R hubcentrics on the rear which are nice and light, the front are integrated into the VWR brake kit

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Re: Wheel Spacers !!!!! yup again lol
« Reply #21 on: 09 March 2016, 19:58 »
I am running 8mm at the moment on the R (which is lowered) and a huge improvement with the stock prets which looked a little lost.

I have H&R hubcentrics on the rear which are nice and light, the front are integrated into the VWR brake kit
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hey up wigit..
thanks for your input may i ask on your rears are they the bolt to bud type or you just got longer wheel bolts so your still using 5 bolts per wheel not 10??

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Re: Wheel Spacers !!!!! yup again lol
« Reply #22 on: 09 March 2016, 20:05 »
they use longer bolts for the 8mm

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Re: Wheel Spacers !!!!! yup again lol
« Reply #23 on: 09 March 2016, 20:13 »
Iirc anything over 5mm require longer bolts?

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Re: Wheel Spacers !!!!! yup again lol
« Reply #24 on: 09 March 2016, 20:34 »
they use longer bolts for the 8mm

you not had any problems with the longer bolts??? radius i assume?? i wasnt 100 sure which way to go if i put 20s on the rear bolt on or straight through..

but just reading what other ppl have put bought used it seems 15mm on the rear and 10mm fronts with longer radius bolts seems to be about right.... just need a good oem locking bolt lol ;-)

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Re: Wheel Spacers !!!!! yup again lol
« Reply #25 on: 09 March 2016, 21:14 »
for me i have never been a fan but need the front to clear the VWR brake callipers so have to even things out

so far so good was impressed with the H&Rs, the VWR spacer is a spigot that locates in the bell and held by two screws which is rather neat

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Re: Wheel Spacers !!!!! yup again lol
« Reply #26 on: 09 March 2016, 21:27 »
Does fitting spacers make the car drive/steer differently at all ?
On some cars it will, for example fitting spacers to the rear will make it turn in a bit sharper and to the front only it'll be the reverse of that.


Just wanted to check, is that right?

I don't believe rear spacers will improve turn in, its not like an anti roll bar at the rear.  Front spacers will increase track width and grip at the front. Rear spacers on there own will likely increase understeer on our cars, as you are widening the track at the rear axle = increasing grip, but not the front. 


Or have I got that wrong?  Either way you probably won't notice it...


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Re: Wheel Spacers !!!!! yup again lol
« Reply #27 on: 09 March 2016, 22:04 »
Does fitting spacers make the car drive/steer differently at all ?
On some cars it will, for example fitting spacers to the rear will make it turn in a bit sharper and to the front only it'll be the reverse of that.


Just wanted to check, is that right?

I don't believe rear spacers will improve turn in, its not like an anti roll bar at the rear.  Front spacers will increase track width and grip at the front. Rear spacers on there own will likely increase understeer on our cars, as you are widening the track at the rear axle = increasing grip, but not the front. 


Or have I got that wrong?  Either way you probably won't notice it...

I've not studied the science of it all but back in the day when Golf GTI's became under powered tubs of lard and some of us still wanted cheap hot hatch frills we moved on to SEAT Cupras.
Putting a set of 15 or 20mm spacers on the back of a mk2 or mk3 Ibiza had the effect of a) looking much better b ) made the initial turn in a bit sharper and c) made it slightly less stable at very high speeds.
Aside from the looks issue the other effects were minimal.
And those that fitted huge brakes for track use had to use spacers to fit the brakes behind the stock wheels - if they didn't also fit rear spacers to balance it up they generally reported that turn in was less sharp but the car tended to track more straight on fast straight sections.

Maybe that's all scientifically wrong but that's the feeling from the drivers seat and being as these cars had mostly Golf chassis that'll do me!
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