Bridgestones, whats the problem?

[Fabio Bignose]

Did we even use the term 'tramping' before we noticed the Mk7 had an 'anti tramping system?'

Maybe it's a common term and just  I'd never heard of it before as I'm not as into cars as I thought..!

Anyhow, both my MK6 and Mk7 GTD both came with them from the factory and the only odd thing I noticed about them was that they wore unevenly/ excessively in the middle on both cars.

Nothing to do with over inflation as my pressures are checked regularly and I've never experienced this on the subsequent continentals/ ecsta's etc.. that were fitted to both cars

I'd have another set.

[Exonian]

Did we even use the term 'tramping' before we noticed the Mk7 had an 'anti tramping system?'

Maybe it's a common term and just  I'd never heard of it before as I'm not as into cars as I thought..!

Anyhow, both my MK6 and Mk7 GTD both came with them from the factory and the only odd thing I noticed about them was that they wore unevenly/ excessively in the middle on both cars.

Nothing to do with over inflation as my pressures are checked regularly and I've never experienced this on the subsequent continentals/ ecsta's etc.. that were fitted to both cars

I'd have another set.

Yes, tramping has been mentioned quite a bit on ALL tyres with high torque applications on Golfs since the mk4 days.
On modified cars the cure tended to be uprated mounts to limit the torque reaction from the soft factory rubber mounts. These modified cars would generally be wearing uprated tyres anyway, especially when they were newer. I'd expect your average remapped mk4 or mk5 to be running on Chinese specials nowadays though!
The mk7 has much more torque as standard than earlier cars, particularly in GTI form so any tramping will be more pronounced.
Going from some of the people on here who modified their mk7 GTI's having had pretty catastrophic suspension failures I'd guess the metal used on the mk7 is also lighter and thinner around the wishbones and other pressed parts.

[barrym381]

Did we even use the term 'tramping' before we noticed the Mk7 had an 'anti tramping system?'

Maybe it's a common term and just  I'd never heard of it before as I'm not as into cars as I thought..!

Anyhow, both my MK6 and Mk7 GTD both came with them from the factory and the only odd thing I noticed about them was that they wore unevenly/ excessively in the middle on both cars.

Nothing to do with over inflation as my pressures are checked regularly and I've never experienced this on the subsequent continentals/ ecsta's etc.. that were fitted to both cars

I'd have another set.

Yes, tramping has been mentioned quite a bit on ALL tyres with high torque applications on Golfs since the mk4 days.
On modified cars the cure tended to be uprated mounts to limit the torque reaction from the soft factory rubber mounts. These modified cars would generally be wearing uprated tyres anyway, especially when they were newer. I'd expect your average remapped mk4 or mk5 to be running on Chinese specials nowadays though!
The mk7 has much more torque as standard than earlier cars, particularly in GTI form so any tramping will be more pronounced.
Going from some of the people on here who modified their mk7 GTI's having had pretty catastrophic suspension failures I'd guess the metal used on the mk7 is also lighter and thinner around the wishbones and other pressed parts.

my mk4 runs eagle f1s and it will still spin when full boost applied  the bridgestones on my mk5 have been ok in the snow we had over the last few days will only notice any difference once its fitted with f1s 

[monkeyhanger]

Fabio: My Scirocco 170TDI on Pirelli P7s from the factory wore the same way - the central 1/3 of the tyre width was at the markers after about 11k miles, the outer 1/3 each side of the centre still had a healthy 6mm left. They were replaced with Michelin PS3 which wore evenly. I inflated as per instructions for a light load, going off the filler flap inflation pressure recommendations.

[Sootchucker]

Well tomorrow mornings the big day, after 2 years 4 months and 20,500 miles I've finally decided enoughs enough, and will be swapping out my Bridgestones (which are down to 3mm now), for a brand new set of Goodyear F1 Assymetrical 3's (the new version).

Quite excited really to have a set of tyres that actually don't just spin up in the wet and allows me to actually pull out on roundabouts without the front wheels tramping like a bast*rd. 

[monkeyhanger]

Well tomorrow mornings the big day, after 2 years 4 months and 20,500 miles I've finally decided enoughs enough, and will be swapping out my Bridgestones (which are down to 3mm now), for a brand new set of Goodyear F1 Assymetrical 3's (the new version).

Quite excited really to have a set of tyres that actually don't just spin up in the wet and allows me to actually pull out on roundabouts without the front wheels tramping like a bast*rd. 

I'm sure they'll transform your car!

[Walts]

Well tomorrow mornings the big day, after 2 years 4 months and 20,500 miles I've finally decided enoughs enough, and will be swapping out my Bridgestones (which are down to 3mm now), for a brand new set of Goodyear F1 Assymetrical 3's (the new version).

Quite excited really to have a set of tyres that actually don't just spin up in the wet and allows me to actually pull out on roundabouts without the front wheels tramping like a bast*rd. 

Looking forward to the update, think I'll be getting the same on mine in the near future.

[Sootchucker]

OMG !!!! What a difference. I was told to not go balls out for the first few hundred miles until they scrubbed in, but straight from the off, the first thing I noticed is how quiet they are. Pulled out onto a main road (just down the road from the tyre place), and had to pull out sharpish, with zero miles on them and ambient at only 3°C, and it just took off - not a hint of wheel spin at all - and that's with 0 miles !

Just got to work (approx. 10 miles), and I can already tell how much better a tyre they are. Firstly (as mentioned) they are very quiet, not just on smooth surfaces, but on rough and semi-rough surfaces, where the Bridgestone's would roar. Secondly, the ride just seems that little bit more compliant and not as harsh over the bumps (although that could be my imagination).

Lastly, I clocked my MPG after pulling up at work (to be fair only a 10 mile journey, but a mix of urban, town centre and dual carriageways), and for reference the best I have EVER had out of the GTD, which was last summer time when it was much warmer, was 64.5 mpg (which I was delighted at). Well today after arriving at work I saw this (and don't forget - mines a DSG, a manual would be 5mpg or so better).



Now it could just be coincidence, (as to be honest, I can't see a different tyre making such a huge difference to MPG), but based upon the above, I do think they will be more economical. Tonight's journey home will be the test, where I've been struggling to get over 50mpg now the weather's turned cold, be interesting to see what the Goodyear's get under similar circumstances.

So far, a very happy bunny, and they treated my alloys with kid gloves and not a mark on them, and as a bonus filled them with Nitrogen at no extra cost and used black wheel weights as well !

[kalimon]

They sound like a fantastic upgrade.

[Jackie Treehorn]

OMG !!!! What a difference. I was told to not go balls out for the first few hundred miles until they scrubbed in, but straight from the off, the first thing I noticed is how quiet they are. Pulled out onto a main road (just down the road from the tyre place), and had to pull out sharpish, with zero miles on them and ambient at only 3°C, and it just took off - not a hint of wheel spin at all - and that's with 0 miles !

Just got to work (approx. 10 miles), and I can already tell how much better a tyre they are. Firstly (as mentioned) they are very quiet, not just on smooth surfaces, but on rough and semi-rough surfaces, where the Bridgestone's would roar. Secondly, the ride just seems that little bit more compliant and not as harsh over the bumps (although that could be my imagination).

Lastly, I clocked my MPG after pulling up at work (to be fair only a 10 mile journey, but a mix of urban, town centre and dual carriageways), and for reference the best I have EVER had out of the GTD, which was last summer time when it was much warmer, was 64.5 mpg (which I was delighted at). Well today after arriving at work I saw this (and don't forget - mines a DSG, a manual would be 5mpg or so better).

Now it could just be coincidence, (as to be honest, I can't see a different tyre making such a huge difference to MPG), but based upon the above, I do think they will be more economical. Tonight's journey home will be the test, where I've been struggling to get over 50mpg now the weather's turned cold, be interesting to see what the Goodyear's get under similar circumstances.

So far, a very happy bunny, and they treated my alloys with kid gloves and not a mark on them, and as a bonus filled them with Nitrogen at no extra cost and used black wheel weights as well !

Glad you liked the improvement on the new rubber, but I don't think I have ever seen anyone talk about new tyres in anything other than glowing reviews in general. 

its never good to take new for old reviews as anything other than a swap and not a comparison, They would feel fantastic compared to 2 1/2 year old 3mm F1's too. Compared to new tyres that are 8mm deep, compliant, and on a new generation rubber...

Glad you liked them though, and good to see a fuel increase even if you are taking it easy at the start. but just wanted to add context before someone jumps in