GTI Clubsport Launched - 2016

[monkeyhanger]

I think you should do it!
Not sure about the PCP thing but keeping it a long time is what I'd do.
Buy the car you really want and cherish it.
Never understood people who change all the time.
Put a bit more thought into it the first time then you won't constantly keep wanting to upgrade.

I'd be pretty nervous about keeping a modern VW donkeys years beyond warranty - the main reason I change every 2 to 3 years.

Depreciation profiles for the performance Golf's are such that you can change at 3 years old and be coppers worse off than changing at 5 years.

[kalimon]

I suppose the fact that I buy my cars outright rather than renting them sways my opinion.

[monkeyhanger]

Mine's bought outright, but I still wouldn't dare keep it past warranty and I'm aware of the rate it is depreciating by. 

With that in mind, I'm putting enough away into savings every month to cover the depreciation - might as well be leasing and leaving my money in the bank. I may well do that next time. If I'm going to lose £ 9k in 3 years on my R or £15k in 5 years, I'd rather have a new car every 3 years - no MOTs to pay for, no haldex/gearbox fluid changes or brake pads/discs to pay for. It all adds up when you keep an older car and standard bhp/handling/refinement/tech are all progressing a long way in those 10 years you might keep yours.

[Brenbo]

Here is another Pistonheads article on the GTI Clubsport. 

http://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-features/golf-gti-laid-bare/33369

Is the 4 Motion diff in the Golf R similar in design to the E Diff in the GTI.  Is the R an E-Diff (electronic/mechanical diff) or is it just a brake based electronic diff?

[Exonian]

Here is another Pistonheads article on the GTI Clubsport. 

http://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-features/golf-gti-laid-bare/33369

Is the 4 Motion diff in the Golf R similar in design to the E Diff in the GTI.  Is the R an E-Diff (electronic/mechanical diff) or is it just a brake based electronic diff?

The R just has XDS (wheel braking) unlike the electro mechanical VAQ diff of the PP/CS/Cupra but then again the Haldex transmits power according to grip so there are certain similarities.

Mine's bought outright, but I still wouldn't dare keep it past warranty and I'm aware of the rate it is depreciating by. 

With that in mind, I'm putting enough away into savings every month to cover the depreciation - might as well be leasing and leaving my money in the bank. I may well do that next time. If I'm going to lose £ 9k in 3 years on my R or £15k in 5 years, I'd rather have a new car every 3 years - no MOTs to pay for, no haldex/gearbox fluid changes or brake pads/discs to pay for. It all adds up when you keep an older car and standard bhp/handling/refinement/tech are all progressing a long way in those 10 years you might keep yours.

Then there's the chances of some pretty big unexpected bills if your aircon packs up or later down the line it's discovered the engine internals are made of chocolate like in the mk6 GTI/Scirocco or the thing turns into a rust bucket like a mk5...

There's no perfect way of buying a car, everyone's wages, outgoings, health, investment returns, debts, relationship issues, child commitments etc are all different.

The more I think about it the more leasing appeals to me too.

[kalimon]

Mine's bought outright, but I still wouldn't dare keep it past warranty and I'm aware of the rate it is depreciating by. 

With that in mind, I'm putting enough away into savings every month to cover the depreciation - might as well be leasing and leaving my money in the bank. I may well do that next time. If I'm going to lose £ 9k in 3 years on my R or £15k in 5 years, I'd rather have a new car every 3 years - no MOTs to pay for, no haldex/gearbox fluid changes or brake pads/discs to pay for. It all adds up when you keep an older car and standard bhp/handling/refinement/tech are all progressing a long way in those 10 years you might keep yours.

You make a strong argument.
My problem is the serious lack of mileage I do, about 3000 miles a year. If I sold it in 3 yrs time, it's still a 3 yr old car, low mileage or not, which makes it a great car to buy but a poor one to sell.

[Brenbo]

@ Kalimon:  I am in a similar boat to you.  My mileage is around 3K/4K+ a year.  I have just hit about 7.5K after 2 years of owning my GTI PP.  However life is for living and I will only regret not getting a car while I am able to afford and enjoy it.  I know I will take a bit of a hit on the mileage and condition of my car when I part ex.  But I will get a margin more back on the car than if it were to have high mileage.  Besides the low mileage means you use less petrol, tyres etc, which means more money to spend on your next car 

[kalimon]

@Brenbo, behave yourself !!
You will have me in a 'R' in 3yrs time with talk like that

[Brenbo]

I am seriously contemplating a GTI Clubsport or Golf R next year.  Getting the 3yr itch.  Absolutely love my current car, but just can't shake that itch.  I know it's a lot of money to lose every few years, but I don't drink, smoke etc,.  My vice I am afraid is blowing money on new cars.  Let me be devils advocate and tempt you to getting a new car.  Come on Kalimon live a little 

[kalimon]

I am seriously contemplating a GTI Clubsport or Golf R next year.  Getting the 3yr itch.  Absolutely love my current car, but just can't shake that itch.  I know it's a lot of money to lose every few years, but I don't drink, smoke etc,.  My vice I am afraid is blowing money on new cars.  Let me be devils advocate and tempt you to getting a new car.  Come on Kalimon live a little 

I am getting a new car, a new GTI PP in March.
I suppose an R or Clubsport make more sense to low mileage drivers like ourselves.
I'm really looking forward to getting my GTI. It will be my first petrol car for about 20yrs.
I spend the majority of my time in a proper vehicle, a Transit van!