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Offline Exonian

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Re: GTD or GTI
« Reply #60 on: 02 July 2015, 18:25 »
It'll give Cossieian a good excuse to order another new one as soon as he's taken delivery of this new one... :whistle:  :laugh:  :grin:


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Offline DougL

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Re: GTD or GTI
« Reply #61 on: 02 July 2015, 23:03 »
I really, really dislike the way Agnews do business. The salesmen are all incredibly full of themselves and offer extremely silly trade ins etc, etc. I would go to an English dealer or broker just to avoid the awfulness of their badly made up receptionists and chancer salesmen.

PS I have lived in London for quite a while and had my GTI supplied by a North Circular dealer via DTD and couldn't have been happier with the service. (It was supplied by Fleet Sales and there was none of the silly Finance/Gap/Lifeshine spiel. Just paid the money, got the keys and left...)

GTi all the way for me. I hate the 2.0 diesel VW lump, no matter what power there is and along with DPF issues, I think the long term ownership prospects are awful. As long as you're not doing all urban mileage, the GTI is lovely and reasonably economical. My long term average is 35 and I drive it quickly on our lightly traffic-ed roads!
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Re: GTD or GTI
« Reply #62 on: 02 July 2015, 23:23 »
Having had a GTi mk5 I loved that car and kept it about 4 years. I then went to a GTD  mk6 as I was doing more miles and thought it would be a better bet for the fuel savings. I kept that for just over 2 years and then went back to the GTi mk7. For me the GTD reminds me of a ladyboy, it looks right but it's just not the same as the real thing. If you don't mind paying a little more for petrol in my opinion it has to be the GTi every time.
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Offline mcmaddy

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Re: GTD or GTI
« Reply #63 on: 03 July 2015, 07:12 »
Quote from: DougL on 02 July 2015, 23:03
I really, really dislike the way Agnews do business. The salesmen are all incredibly full of themselves and offer extremely silly trade ins etc, etc. I would go to an English dealer or broker just to avoid the awfulness of their badly made up receptionists and chancer salesmen.

PS I have lived in London for quite a while and had my GTI supplied by a North Circular dealer via DTD and couldn't have been happier with the service. (It was supplied by Fleet Sales and there was none of the silly Finance/Gap/Lifeshine spiel. Just paid the money, got the keys and left...)

GTi all the way for me. I hate the 2.0 diesel VW lump, no matter what power there is and along with DPF issues, I think the long term ownership prospects are awful. As long as you're not doing all urban mileage, the GTI is lovely and reasonably economical. My long term average is 35 and I drive it quickly on our lightly traffic-ed roads!

What dpf issues? This new diesel engine if nothing like previous ones and the dpf has been moved too so I doubt any dpf issues will occur. Explain long term ownership prospects being awful??
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Re: GTD or GTI
« Reply #64 on: 03 July 2015, 07:42 »
The GTD is for the tight git parade who are only concerned with mpg.  :grin: :grin:
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Re: GTD or GTI
« Reply #65 on: 03 July 2015, 08:48 »
Quote from: mcmaddy on 03 July 2015, 07:12
What dpf issues? This new diesel engine if nothing like previous ones and the dpf has been moved too so I doubt any dpf issues will occur. Explain long term ownership prospects being awful??

The constant regeneration is noisy and annoying or at least it was on the equivalent Seat Leon that I used to own. By long term, I mean that the cost of DPF replacement later in life will be prohibitive and negate fuel savings during the car's lifetime. I realise that this won't affect most of us who won't keep the car for long enough. However, I suspect that due to increased production of NOx pollutants, the UK government won't remain diesel friendly, so long-term taxation on diesel won't be particularly beneficial either. With both of these factors, I suspect residual values of diesel engined vehicles, will not continue to remain buoyant.
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Re: GTD or GTI
« Reply #66 on: 03 July 2015, 08:55 »
There's a lot of crap in the news about diesels at the moment.

None of them pointing out that the Euro6 spec engines have changed the game beyond belief.

Take a look at the table on this page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_standards

Any legislation will either be against pre-Euro6 (or 7 by the time they get their act together) or non-existent when the FTA and the London cabbies get lobbying.

Its certainly not an issue for anyone buying a Mk7 Golf - this will drag on for years.
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Offline DougL

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Re: GTD or GTI
« Reply #67 on: 03 July 2015, 09:01 »
Let's not forget dual mass flywheels either. ;-)

You're probably right about the issues dragging on Fred; I'm just expressing my opinion about why I wouldn't buy one again. I really don't like the way they feel and the lowish capacity petrol engine has come a long way in the last few years thus negating the benefits for me personally. I've had plenty of diesel cars in the past but probably won't buy another.
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Re: GTD or GTI
« Reply #68 on: 03 July 2015, 09:44 »
Quote from: CraigW on 03 July 2015, 07:42
The GTD is for the tight git parade who are only concerned with mpg.  :grin: :grin:

I'll take the bait  :smiley: :smiley:

Maybe its because they couldn't stand the silly red band across the front of the GTI and the dreadful axe wheels.

Just a personal opinion of course.  :laugh:
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Re: GTD or GTI
« Reply #69 on: 03 July 2015, 10:13 »
Quote from: TwoSheds on 03 July 2015, 09:44
Quote from: CraigW on 03 July 2015, 07:42
The GTD is for the tight git parade who are only concerned with mpg.  :grin: :grin:

I'll take the bait  :smiley: :smiley:

Maybe its because they couldn't stand the silly red band across the front of the GTI and the dreadful axe wheels.

Just a personal opinion of course.  :laugh:

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Well the wheels can easily be replaced with the santiagos and that just leaves the red stripe. Mmmmm I think I'll have the tractor cause I don't like the red stripe  :grin: :grin:
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