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Offline hardmonkeys

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Re: Comparing S3 Sportback and R 5 Door Build Quality
« Reply #10 on: 11 April 2015, 06:51 »
Either would do me, if I'm honest
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Re: Comparing S3 Sportback and R 5 Door Build Quality
« Reply #11 on: 11 April 2015, 08:33 »
The fit and finish on my Golf is perfect,  the paint is also very good,  as good as as any audi,  the only thing I think is better on a S3 is interior build quality,  that said I prefer the look of the R's interior,  i did look at buying a S3 but it just looked like any other A3 and was a bit too big for my liking.

Both very good cars though.
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Re: Comparing S3 Sportback and R 5 Door Build Quality
« Reply #12 on: 11 April 2015, 08:59 »

I just don't understand why people are being so excessively defensive and over protective over a throwaway non-premium depreciating asset.


I've really not seen any evidence of Audis being better than a VW, they suffer as many warranty issues, use the same parts, and in some cases are built side-by-side with VWs and Seats at the same plant. I did look hard into an S3 and saw nowt in it between the 2 mass produced small-medium hatchbacks other than external looks, a slightly more premium (and I mean very slight, the MK7 has really closed the gap) interior, and almost no useful equipment on the Audi, but a raft of it on the Golf.

If you want nappa leather on the R, or a decent equipment spec on the S3, there is nothing between them price-wise, to me that is a strong indicator that quality of materials and build is pretty much equal between the 2, surely VW AG should be able to fetch more than a 2.5% premium for the Audi if it was so much better?

For me, picking  the R over the S3 came down to a few things:-

1. Looks - I like the front and back end of the S3, not so much it's side profile in Sportback form, for me the 5 door R beats the S3 sportback hands down.

2. Equipment - The R comes with over £2700-worth of equipment that the S3 doesn't have, most of which I would be willing to order if neither car came with it. The S3 has £2600-worth of nappa leather that I would happily take for free, but would never willingly pay for.

3. Cost to change - my 2 local Audi dealership groups were not willing to give more than 5% discount, I got 12% on the R, and a better p/x to boot. The Audi dealers were more than a little snotty too. Even with the GFV drop, that S3 that i'd get £2k more for at p/x 3 years down the line would have cost me £2500 more to get to the spec I want - in the end i'll see most of it back, so in a way that leather is kind of free.

4. The wait - If Audi could have built me an S3 in a similar time-frame that BMW could have built me a 330D/335D, that might have clinched it. As it is, they were quoting me 20 weeks (same as the R was supposed to be).

Maybe an S3 next time, just to feel like i've bought something a little different if/when itchy feet set in (but knowing it's only skin deep). The 2 cars are much of a muchness. When you're buying a £70k Audi rather than a £30k VW, you'll likely see the difference. When you're buying a £30970 Audi rather than a £30150 VW, to be expecting a superior product, you've bought into the Audi salesman's sales patter. All IMO.
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Re: Comparing S3 Sportback and R 5 Door Build Quality
« Reply #13 on: 11 April 2015, 09:03 »

I wait with bated breath.  I've got a bloody big magnifying glass you can borrow if you like  :tongue:  :smiley:

I think Asker will be more likely requiring a lend of the Electron microscope at my wife's place of work.  :whistle:
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Re: Comparing S3 Sportback and R 5 Door Build Quality
« Reply #14 on: 11 April 2015, 11:02 »
I think Asker will be more likely requiring a lend of the Electron microscope at my wife's place of work.  :whistle:

What a ridiculous idea. Shame on you!  :wink:

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Re: Comparing S3 Sportback and R 5 Door Build Quality
« Reply #15 on: 11 April 2015, 14:03 »
I've not compared my Golf to a Audi but it's way far the best built VW i have owned, panel gaps absolutely perfect and no rattles yet. I can't imagine a Audi is much better built.
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Re: Comparing S3 Sportback and R 5 Door Build Quality
« Reply #16 on: 11 April 2015, 16:52 »
Fixed this omission in my post. Thanks for following me so closely. Most appreciated. :rolleyes:

Paranoia is never a good thing  :laugh: old chap.
Sorry to disappoint but I'm not following you  :shocked:
I can't help it if I'd just read your post 5 minutes previously slating the seats on one thread then you calling them pristine in another.
Confused  :undecided: You bet I was!
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Re: Comparing S3 Sportback and R 5 Door Build Quality
« Reply #17 on: 11 April 2015, 17:45 »
Fixed this omission in my post. Thanks for following me so closely. Most appreciated. :rolleyes:
Paranoia is never a good thing  :laugh: old chap.
Sorry to disappoint but I'm not following you  :shocked:
I can't help it if I'd just read your post 5 minutes previously slating the seats on one thread then you calling them pristine in another.
Confused  :undecided: You bet I was!

Hope I have now unconfused you.  :wink:
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Re: Comparing S3 Sportback and R 5 Door Build Quality
« Reply #18 on: 11 April 2015, 17:47 »
Hope I have now unconfused you.  :wink:


Yes you haven't   :laugh:
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Re: Comparing S3 Sportback and R 5 Door Build Quality
« Reply #19 on: 11 April 2015, 17:49 »
Hope I have now unconfused you.  :wink:
Yes you haven't   :laugh:

Give it time.  :wink:
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