Well all's that I can say is..I get in my 8v on a nice sunny morning (it hates the rain)and I head out to the nice twistest country roads by ours and have a feeckin blast.

;DThere is nothin out there 2 beat it..So it is not just about speed..It is pure enjoyment..

..My car is 15yrs old and still takes the p*ss out of these new cars with there traction control blah blah blah..Give me a gti any day..