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Offline matchboy

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GTI vs R - initial thoughts
« on: 30 October 2014, 10:27 »
Picked up my R yesterday lunchtime.  It's outstanding, can't praise it enough  :evil: Thought it might be of some use doing a little comparison, albeit only 150 miles driven  :smiley:

First off, it's a lot quicker than the GTI.  And that wasn't slow!  Granted my GTI was a manual PP, and the R is a DSG - so it certainly changes gears quicker than a human being would be able to - but the acceleration is brilliant  :evil:  In D it picks up very well indeed, better than I thought it would - and in S, well, you can guess about that  :evil:

In terms of the feel of the car, the drive, steering etc - it's exactly the same.  Can't tell any difference whatsoever, it's as good as the GTI is.  Obviously I haven't been in conditions to test out the 4WD.  Handles round corners great, hugs the bends just like the GTI.  No difference so far.  There will be come the snow though!

Ride quality - the GTI was on 19s, the R is on 18s.  No DCC in either.  Feels exactly the same IMO, as comfortable as you would want from any hot hatch - it may be a little firm for some people, but not for me.  Cruising to work today in traffic it was a dream to drive.

Cabin - some nice touches in the R (black effect on the steering wheel instead of the chrome in the GTI, the door panel has a different softer material also) but in the main it's the same inside.  Yes, the little touches differentiate it from the GTI (and GTD) but there's nothing majorly different.

The sound - I know some people don't like the artificial sound.  And that's fair enough.  But I absolutely love it!  When the car downshifts (either on its own as you slow down or if you do it yourself via the paddles), the roar you get is totally addictive - and the little 'boom' you get with gear changes is fantastic.  Much, much louder than the GTI.  So addictive I haven't taken it out of Race mode  :wink:

The looks - you all know what an R looks like, suffice to say I think it looks outstanding - does it look better than the GTI?  The front end is still better on the GTI, but saying that the double DRLs look amazing on the R and the silver edge on the front skirt really stands out.  Everyone got out of my way this morning  :grin:  From the back there's no comparison, I love the quads  :cool:  And the blue interior is very cool too, reminds me of my old mk 4 V5/GTI's  :smiley:

DSG - this is my first auto (owned), I've always had manuals - so taken a punt on this as I love a manual car.  But so far I am more impressed than I thought I would be.  Driving to work today was a piece of cake, in the usual mass of traffic, car does the lot for you in D - seamless gear changes, very impressed (although the auto in a BMW is slightly better).  But yesterday on some open roads, slapped it in S and used the paddles - so, so much fun.  As engaging as a manual IMO.

As an aside, the leather (Carbon Nappa) - albeit very expensive at £2,650 - is well worth the money.  Really impressed.  Massive step up over the Vienna that I had on my mk 5 and 6 GTI's - soft and comfortable, and gives the cabin a premium feel.  Had the cloth in my GTI and loved that, so it's down to personal preference, but I'm very impressed with the quality of the leather so far.  Time will tell how it wears though.

Sorry there's not too much more to comment on, but have only done 150 odd miles.  So, is it worth the extra cash over the GTI, not only to buy but to run?  Well all I can say is yes, 100% IMO.  The speed/acceleration is addictive (obviously adhering to the speed limits), I love the noise of the car, and the little touches in the cabin over the GTI make it feel different.  Does it diminsh the quality of the GTI in any way - not at all.  I loved my mk 7 GTI, it's the best GTI yet by a mile.  But the R - well, it's a joy to drive and is an immense amount of fun - I can't wait to get back in it later!

Those who have made the jump will not be disappointed!!

(I know this thread is possibly useless without pics  :grin:, but there's some on my twitter - matchboy1976 - and I'll put some more on here once it's detailed next Weds  :smiley:).
« Last Edit: 30 October 2014, 10:32 by matchboy »
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Re: GTI vs R - initial thoughts
« Reply #1 on: 30 October 2014, 10:50 »
Top review Mark!!

I was genuinely excited for you yesterday knowing you were picking it up  :smiley:

I had a test drive of one a number of months ago and the acceleration was just on a different planet from the GTI. Interesting to hear your thoughts on the sound compared to the GTI. I'm with you in that i love hearing the exhaust note when you put your foot down and unfortunately imo the GTI just doesn't live up to expectations in that department.

I've never driven an automatic either but it's definitely something I would choose on my next car

Obviously seen the pics on twitter and it looks immense. Looking forward to seeing more after it's been detailed.

Enjoy pal!!  :smiley: :smiley:

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Re: GTI vs R - initial thoughts
« Reply #2 on: 30 October 2014, 10:59 »
Top review Mark!!

I was genuinely excited for you yesterday knowing you were picking it up  :smiley:

I had a test drive of one a number of months ago and the acceleration was just on a different planet from the GTI. Interesting to hear your thoughts on the sound compared to the GTI. I'm with you in that i love hearing the exhaust note when you put your foot down and unfortunately imo the GTI just doesn't live up to expectations in that department.

I've never driven an automatic either but it's definitely something I would choose on my next car

Obviously seen the pics on twitter and it looks immense. Looking forward to seeing more after it's been detailed.

Enjoy pal!!  :smiley: :smiley:

Thanks mate!!  :smiley:

Yes, the acceleration is wicked, far too addictive  :grin:  Totally agree with the noise from the GTI, in fact the GTD with the Sport & Sound pack sounds louder than the GTI.  I know its all artificial but still.

Would defintely recommend the DSG, I really really like it - far more than I thought I would!

I will, thanks Craig!!
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Re: GTI vs R - initial thoughts
« Reply #3 on: 30 October 2014, 11:58 »
Glad you're happy with the R matchboy. Pretty good comparison however I completely disagree with the R's "acceleration being on another planet to the GTI" My brother has a R DSG and I have a GTI PP DSG so I have driven both quite frequently, sometimes back to back and even with my car at standard the R feels slightly and I mean very slightly quicker. Obviously when I'm on Stage 1 it destroys the R but that's stating the obvious.
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Re: GTI vs R - initial thoughts
« Reply #4 on: 30 October 2014, 12:01 »
Glad you're happy with the R matchboy. Pretty good comparison however I completely disagree with the R's "acceleration being on another planet to the GTI" My brother has a R DSG and I have a GTI PP DSG so I have driven both quite frequently, sometimes back to back and even with my car at standard the R feels slightly and I mean very slightly quicker. Obviously when I'm on Stage 1 it destroys the R but that's stating the obvious.

You can disagree  :grin:  I obviously disagree with what you're saying too, acceleration in 1st & 2nd is so much quicker in the R, there is no comparison whatsoever - but different opinions are what makes the world go round!  :smiley:
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Re: GTI vs R - initial thoughts
« Reply #5 on: 30 October 2014, 12:54 »
Changing from a 200bhp TT to a 230 bhp GTI PP the increase in power is not massively noticeable to me however the short test drive I had in the R felt a hell of a lot different especially through the lower gears.

I suppose we all have different perceptions of speed

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Re: GTI vs R - initial thoughts
« Reply #6 on: 30 October 2014, 12:57 »
You should really post some before (now) pics to compare to the post detail pics you'll be putting up, as mine will look very similar to yours externally (Cadiz/Lapiz). Will be buying some C1 in for mine to do it myself (too tight to pay someone to detail mine).

Looking forward to everything but the fuel bill when I get mine next March.  :whistle:
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Re: GTI vs R - initial thoughts
« Reply #7 on: 30 October 2014, 13:14 »
You should really post some before (now) pics to compare to the post detail pics you'll be putting up, as mine will look very similar to yours externally (Cadiz/Lapiz). Will be buying some C1 in for mine to do it myself (too tight to pay someone to detail mine).

Looking forward to everything but the fuel bill when I get mine next March.  :whistle:

I got 29mpg this morning to work; in the GTI it was usually around 32-34 odd.  Happy with that!  But its when you put your foot down that it'll become expensive  :grin:

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Re: GTI vs R - initial thoughts
« Reply #8 on: 30 October 2014, 13:28 »
Very Smart indeed. So glad I stuck with the Lapiz (was tempted to change to DBP) and even though it's a tiny detail, I am a big fan of the blue lighting inside.

29mpg on a sensible journey from early days is good enough for me.
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Re: GTI vs R - initial thoughts
« Reply #9 on: 30 October 2014, 13:40 »
Very Smart indeed. So glad I stuck with the Lapiz (was tempted to change to DBP) and even though it's a tiny detail, I am a big fan of the blue lighting inside.

29mpg on a sensible journey from early days is good enough for me.

Yes, I'm glad I switched back to Lapiz - it looks great in the flesh.

I was pleasantly surprised at the mpg I have to say  :smiley:
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