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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #140 on: 24 September 2014, 19:14 »
Sounds like I'm in a similar postion to the above though I'm one year into a 5 year hire purchase on my 63 reg 5dr manual GTI PP with under 11k miles.

Dealer is offering a 20k part exchange which would drop to about 19400 in January. Do you think that's pretty fair or could I shop around a bit? I'm not sure how much I could squeeze from a private sale for the reasons mentioned above?

On another note - with the R can anyone comment on how worthwhile DSG is over a manual? Every GTI/R video I see these days is a DSG with the characteristic gear change burp - but does the noise change otherwise? Always seems way louder than what it does inside my manual when revving up!


I think £19400 for a GTI PP in Jan is a very fair p/x price IF you can get close to the Orangewheels price discount on the new one and assuming you have no other options apart from your PP (which you would lose an arm and a leg on). On a 5 year contract with minimal amount of capital coming off your balance on a month-to-month basis early on in the agreement, i'm guessing they've offered what they're offering to clear your slate (unless a sizeable deposit got put down). Reasons for private sale being a complete ball-ache are also given above, and you're being offered more for yours than some here, which makes it very fair IMO. I doubt you'd achieve more than £20500 privately and would have the tyre kickers and hard work to contend with if you do. You can always be cheeky and ask for more, they can only say no. Usually though, better p/x comes at the expense of a smaller discount. If you want it in Jan that could work though, it's an unpopular month for picking up a car - just after Xmas and most would wait for the new plate, hard time for car sales people to meet targets.

From my limited time on a test drive, the R sounded very loud compared to my GTD (soundaktor output and true engine output).
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #141 on: 24 September 2014, 19:24 »
Looks like there will be a few dtuk boxes going cheap soon :whistle:. Congrats on the new orders, very nice motors indeed. A friends boss has a black one that looks awesome(when clean :grin:) and goes like sh1t off a shovel. You guys definitely have itchy feet syndrome. I don't change my underpants as much as you change your cars :grin:

Aye, seems far more GTDers are wanting to switch than GTIers. The DTUK box can put you on par with a GTI PP for acceleration once you're above 30mph and still get you 45mpg, it makes a huge difference to the car.

For some GTIers that also get a box or remap, the biggest draw for them to move to an R rather than stick with a box is the 4WD system. Having amazing traction and grip will be a novelty for me, I thought my traction would improve with rotating my wheels (to minimise wear across 4 tyres for trade-in time), but 3mm or 7mm on the Bridgestones makes no odds, they're sh!te at either end of their lifetime!  :grin:

GTDers with Bridgestones have the most to gain by moving to an R (and the most fuel money to lose!).
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #142 on: 24 September 2014, 19:46 »
Has anyone tried wbac or similar to see what they offer in comparison to the trade in price offered?

I've heard conflicting stories of them.
HIS: R 5dr DSG Lapiz: Tech Pack: Keyless: 90% Tints: Pretorias: Rear View Camera
HERS:  GTI 5dr Manual DBP: Parking Pack: Car-Net App: 90% Privacy Glass. Ordered 05-12-15. Delivered 03-03-16
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #143 on: 24 September 2014, 19:51 »
Sounds like I'm in a similar postion to the above though I'm one year into a 5 year hire purchase on my 63 reg 5dr manual GTI PP with under 11k miles.

Dealer is offering a 20k part exchange which would drop to about 19400 in January. Do you think that's pretty fair or could I shop around a bit? I'm not sure how much I could squeeze from a private sale for the reasons mentioned above?

On another note - with the R can anyone comment on how worthwhile DSG is over a manual? Every GTI/R video I see these days is a DSG with the characteristic gear change burp - but does the noise change otherwise? Always seems way louder than what it does inside my manual when revving up!


I think £19400 for a GTI PP in Jan is a very fair p/x price IF you can get close to the Orangewheels price discount on the new one and assuming you have no other options apart from your PP (which you would lose an arm and a leg on). On a 5 year contract with minimal amount of capital coming off your balance on a month-to-month basis early on in the agreement, i'm guessing they've offered what they're offering to clear your slate (unless a sizeable deposit got put down). Reasons for private sale being a complete ball-ache are also given above, and you're being offered more for yours than some here, which makes it very fair IMO. I doubt you'd achieve more than £20500 privately and would have the tyre kickers and hard work to contend with if you do. You can always be cheeky and ask for more, they can only say no. Usually though, better p/x comes at the expense of a smaller discount. If you want it in Jan that could work though, it's an unpopular month for picking up a car - just after Xmas and most would wait for the new plate, hard time for car sales people to meet targets.

From my limited time on a test drive, the R sounded very loud compared to my GTD (soundaktor output and true engine output).

Thats one of the things im actually really looking forward to if the R comes off, the sound!!!!! Why i fancy the DSG to hear the noise of the quick shift...epic sound Wont get this in the manual but at least you can drive a manual than be driven about by the car if that makes sense. VW Edinburgh calling me back toorrow re getting a R up from GTI world. Asked for a DSG so i can discount it if i dont like it. Best to barter face to face to iron out a deal hate doing it over the phne. Takes ages for them to get back to you after "speaking to there manager" etc
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #144 on: 24 September 2014, 20:29 »
Has anyone tried wbac or similar to see what they offer in comparison to the trade in price offered?

I've heard conflicting stories of them.

I did an online quote with "wewillbuyyourcar.com" who are supposed to be a little more generous than wbac, it came out at £16450. To be expected, their cars will probably end up at non VW franchised car supermarkets for £2/3k less than the dealerships, but they still want to make money on it and the car supermarket to do so also.
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #145 on: 24 September 2014, 22:15 »
We buy any car quote...11k for my GTD ha...yeh let me take you up on that  :grin::
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #146 on: 24 September 2014, 22:19 »
We buy any car quote...11k for my GTD ha...yeh let me take you up on that  :grin::

They want first refusal on your kidneys too.
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #147 on: 25 September 2014, 09:25 »
Wow as good as that?

The last time I had checked them on 2 different cars they were actually offering slightly over than what the garage offered as a trade in.
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #148 on: 25 September 2014, 09:43 »
We buy any car quote...11k for my GTD ha...yeh let me take you up on that  :grin::

They want first refusal on your kidneys too.

Well if the R goes ahead (phone call today and popping in to garage on Sat) then theyl have to prize my kidneys from being embedded in the steering wheel in potentially 6 months if its stupid quick ha
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #149 on: 25 September 2014, 09:44 »
Wow as good as that?

The last time I had checked them on 2 different cars they were actually offering slightly over than what the garage offered as a trade in.

Sarcasm much ha. Yeh, joke! I could sell it 20k privately, but as MH said, who has 20k in cash these days, and if you did, youd buy from a garage and get a service plan etc. Really? Surprised by that, I thought they were a bunch of fly by the night characters
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