Bye-bye GTi hello R

[virginVWman]

Slightly of subject but are people going for the larger 19in or keeping the standards?  Iv not seen them in the flesh yet. I was tempted by the 19in but not so sure yet...?

Seeing both in the flesh the Pretoria's are gorgeous and i'm not usually one who bothers speccing for optional upgraded wheels but in the R I definitely would. My brother's placed an order for one and he's gone for the Pretoria's. They do look a lot better than the standard wheels in my opinion. Just not a fan of the standard wheels, look a bit basic.

I would be inclined to agree with you here, but I personally think it depends on what colour you spec. I wasn't a fan at all of the 18s to begin with until I saw them on a white 3 door with black mirror caps...it looked stunning. 19s look stunning on a Red R as well as Lapiz, but yet again we all have different opinions. Pretorias here on a white car with black mirror caps...dogs b*llocks

http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/adam/7c1f1c69c19f2433b5436a07e9093de0/golf-r-frankfurt-005web.jpg

 

[matchboy]

@monkeyhanger Good stuff, those numbers make sense as well.  As long as you can cope with the higher fuel costs then you've defintely made the right choice - and I agree with you having the standard wheels, they look much better than the Pretoria's with the Lapiz Blue.

I'm assuming you went for a factory order? What sort of lead time have you been given?  Any movement on the tracker for you yet?

Someone asked about the difference and why people are changing - well, I hammer my GTI PP (up to the speed limit) and when I drove an R I was blown away by the difference in performance.  That, for me, was the biggest reason for changing along with the affordability given what I am all ready paying for my GTI.

Maybe we should start a thread for those who went through the pain of the original GTI/GTD first orders who are now changing to an R 12 months later - gluttons for punishment 

Tell you something, I am so close to calling up VW just to hear the numbers involved! GTD is in mint condition, 11 months old and 15k miles. Wonder what I could achieve swapping it for a white R on 18s with leather/DSG. Pay £346 a month at moment, would pay £380 - £400 tops. Don't ask don't get I suppose. Insurance could be a bugger too

Do it!!  I don't know how old you are, but the insurance for me is a minimal increase    But I am approaching 40 

@mikeok The 19s look good, but only with certain colours.  I'd recommend seeing them in the flesh on the colour you want before choosing!

[wigit]

personally i think certain wheels suit certain colours better, as does the silver wing mirror combo

i've got the 19s on lapiz blue with black lower lip and mirror caps, that said for me the 18s look better on red and night blue as the black gives them an injection of colour

wife's R on order is nigh blue more door on 18s and think the chrome bling and the 18s will suit it, on these colours i think the 19s need to be finished in anthracite like the VWR ones

[virginVWman]

@monkeyhanger Good stuff, those numbers make sense as well.  As long as you can cope with the higher fuel costs then you've defintely made the right choice - and I agree with you having the standard wheels, they look much better than the Pretoria's with the Lapiz Blue.

I'm assuming you went for a factory order? What sort of lead time have you been given?  Any movement on the tracker for you yet?

Someone asked about the difference and why people are changing - well, I hammer my GTI PP (up to the speed limit) and when I drove an R I was blown away by the difference in performance.  That, for me, was the biggest reason for changing along with the affordability given what I am all ready paying for my GTI.

Maybe we should start a thread for those who went through the pain of the original GTI/GTD first orders who are now changing to an R 12 months later - gluttons for punishment 

Tell you something, I am so close to calling up VW just to hear the numbers involved! GTD is in mint condition, 11 months old and 15k miles. Wonder what I could achieve swapping it for a white R on 18s with leather/DSG. Pay £346 a month at moment, would pay £380 - £400 tops. Don't ask don't get I suppose. Insurance could be a bugger too

Do it!!  I don't know how old you are, but the insurance for me is a minimal increase    But I am approaching 40 

@mikeok The 19s look good, but only with certain colours.  I'd recommend seeing them in the flesh on the colour you want before choosing!

Just sent details to orangewheels, specced a white R 18s, DSG and leather with a saving of £3,895 (12%). Cant remember how much outstanding on finance, need to call VW. Toe in water anyway and just to see if change would be financially viable. 29 big 30 in June. So cant imagine insurance being sky high

[monkeyhanger]

@monkeyhanger Good stuff, those numbers make sense as well.  As long as you can cope with the higher fuel costs then you've defintely made the right choice - and I agree with you having the standard wheels, they look much better than the Pretoria's with the Lapiz Blue.

I'm assuming you went for a factory order? What sort of lead time have you been given?  Any movement on the tracker for you yet?

Someone asked about the difference and why people are changing - well, I hammer my GTI PP (up to the speed limit) and when I drove an R I was blown away by the difference in performance.  That, for me, was the biggest reason for changing along with the affordability given what I am all ready paying for my GTI.

Maybe we should start a thread for those who went through the pain of the original GTI/GTD first orders who are now changing to an R 12 months later - gluttons for punishment 

Completely agree with the 19" wheels being very colour dependent. The Cadiz look great on a Lapiz Blue, the Pretorias look better on white/red (haven’t seen any other colour/wheel combinations but have seen white with both wheels). But Damn, those Pretorias look dainty/fragile – are they up to a bashing from UK potholed roads?

I have just had the order form bounced back to me by the dealer to make sure all the details were correct – I turned up at the dealership without an appointment and overlapped into another appointment, so agreed to clarify the form details via email. I got the form yesterday and my salesman works the weekends, having Mon/Tues off, so chances are it’ll not go through to VW UK until Weds. I have stipulated that I want the car on a 15 plate, so 5 months and 1 week to March 1st probably is compatible with current build times. I see on the form my dealer shows what I have and the breakdown of price, included in there is an itemised “RTI= 0.00”, so it would seem he’s hoying in GAP insurance for nowt too, an added bonus. He has done that for my last 3 cars, but driving such a hard bargain this time I didn’t think he’d have the margins to add it.

Been doing some sums with someone else here who’s interested in an R, those optional extras are a killer! £25 a month added for every £1000 of options, on the assumption of 20% retained value on them and you keep the car the whole 36 months.

[Misterp]

personally i think certain wheels suit certain colours better, as does the silver wing mirror combo

i've got the 19s on lapiz blue with black lower lip and mirror caps, that said for me the 18s look better on red and night blue as the black gives them an injection of colour

wife's R on order is nigh blue more door on 18s and think the chrome bling and the 18s will suit it, on these colours i think the 19s need to be finished in anthracite like the VWR ones

does any one have pictures of a R in  Night blue.

[monkeyhanger]

Insurance is a tenner a month cheaper for the R rather than the GTD for me – perhaps they assume that more Rs will be privately owned than is the case for GTDs, and private owners will look after their cars a little better (sorry company car owners!).

Im 38, full NCD, living in a low risk area, parking on the street outside the front of the house (we have a drive, but it’s on the back of the house, with access from the street behind), 3 points on my license and Esure want £259 for the year, NCD protected. I can add my lass on as a newly qualified driver (she should be taking her test in the next 6 months) for a total premium of £400. Letting a newly qualified driver on the roads in such a beast of a car for £400, mental!

[monkeyhanger]

Just sent details to orangewheels, specced a white R 18s, DSG and leather with a saving of £3,895 (12%). Cant remember how much outstanding on finance, need to call VW. Toe in water anyway and just to see if change would be financially viable. 29 big 30 in June. So cant imagine insurance being sky high

I worked on the basis of wanting £2500 more than WBAC for my old car in part-ex/ or wanting £3k less than anticipated March 2015 used value at a VW dealer (take the now value and knock £1500 off) and getting Orangewheels price, or the equivalent cost to change in any combination the dealership see fit. You'll be some kind of hypnotist if you manage to get top p/x price and top discount on the new one.

[matchboy]

Completely agree with the 19" wheels being very colour dependent. The Cadiz look great on a Lapiz Blue, the Pretorias look better on white/red (haven’t seen any other colour/wheel combinations but have seen white with both wheels). But Damn, those Pretorias look dainty/fragile – are they up to a bashing from UK potholed roads?

I have just had the order form bounced back to me by the dealer to make sure all the details were correct – I turned up at the dealership without an appointment and overlapped into another appointment, so agreed to clarify the form details via email. I got the form yesterday and my salesman works the weekends, having Mon/Tues off, so chances are it’ll not go through to VW UK until Weds. I have stipulated that I want the car on a 15 plate, so 5 months and 1 week to March 1st probably is compatible with current build times. I see on the form my dealer shows what I have and the breakdown of price, included in there is an itemised “RTI= 0.00”, so it would seem he’s hoying in GAP insurance for nowt too, an added bonus. He has done that for my last 3 cars, but driving such a hard bargain this time I didn’t think he’d have the margins to add it.

Been doing some sums with someone else here who’s interested in an R, those optional extras are a killer! £25 a month added for every £1000 of options, on the assumption of 20% retained value on them and you keep the car the whole 36 months.

I've gone for Reflex Silver, and the 19's look amazing with that colour.  Originally I was going for Lapiz Blue, and IMO the Cadiz suited the colour better.  I do agree that the Pretoria's look flimsy - only time will tell with those 

I think your time frame for a 1st March delivery seems more than likely.  I ordered a few weeks ago and have a provisional BW of 4, which implies a 1st March delivery, and therefore the new plate.  The wait will be worth it though 

I also agree, the options are the killer with respect to the monthly payments.  I added DNS and the 19's and that's where the increase in my monthly payments is going.  Couldn't live without Sat Nav and I prefer the 19's with my colour.  My wife has the DNS Pro on her GTD, and its a lot better than the DNS - but I couldn't justfiy the extra grand - and I haven't got it now so I won't miss it.  I was tempted by Keyless as she has that too, and that's good value for the money.  Dynaudio is from BW45 on the R, however I have concerns about how this will delay my build as they're having to juggle around with the insides of the car to fit it in - and as much as I love the dynaudio on my GTI, I don't want to have to wait more than 6 months just to have an upgraded stereo.

[virginVWman]

Really! That's not bad. I like to pay insurance upfront as it works out cheaper.

Hope to hear back soon re the quote, however I am sure I could get better than a 12% saving with Dads mate. If they take the car as PX and its a PCP deal with no equity in it, I presume I will still need to put down some cash as a minor deposit?