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Offline tweed

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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #10 on: 15 June 2014, 18:20 »
Thing is you can get the vr up to 195bhp just as easy.

how? What mods are required?

Seriously?  I just told you in your thread and then you quoted my comment  :rolleyes:

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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #11 on: 15 June 2014, 18:41 »
Thing is you can get the vr up to 195bhp just as easy.

how? What mods are required?

Seriously?  I just told you in your thread and then you quoted my comment  :rolleyes:

sorry tweed. My heads all over the show lol
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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #12 on: 15 June 2014, 18:46 »
Thing is you can get the vr up to 195bhp just as easy.

how? What mods are required?

Seriously?  I just told you in your thread and then you quoted my comment  :rolleyes:

sorry tweed. My heads all over the show lol

 :grin: :grin: concentrate on getting yours started

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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #13 on: 15 June 2014, 21:29 »
Thing is you can get the vr up to 195bhp just as easy.

how? What mods are required?

Seriously?  I just told you in your thread and then you quoted my comment  :rolleyes:

sorry tweed. My heads all over the show lol

 :grin: :grin: concentrate on getting yours started

yes damn right lol
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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #14 on: 15 June 2014, 23:12 »
The only reason is the power of the VR6. The noise is good too. I drive a 14 plate VRS diesel DSG with 184bhp and want to get similar power from my 16V. I have put on a ported throttle body and induction kit but there isn't a huge difference. I don't want to destroy a perfectly good 16v engine by over modding it when I can drop a vr6 lump and mod that. Am I nuts or does it sound logical?

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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #15 on: 15 June 2014, 23:57 »
You need cams, vernier pulley, map and rr set up.
Fully ported intake, head and exhaust to get a good 175+ on a 16v.
A VR gives you this but a lot of weight up front.
The 1.8t Gives You More For Your Money which is Why nobody bothers With VR or schrick cams anymore.
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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #16 on: 16 June 2014, 00:14 »
Personally mate i wouldn't bother,

Two reasons really;

They are great motors, and it could be understood if it was say an 8v, but its a 16 so you'd only be gaining say 25 BHP?

Second, why an earth would you build something that you could just buy for the same price?

I couldn't see the insurance being much of a difference, I wouldn't build something thats already out of the showroom,

I say drop a 1.8t in it and go from there pal, So much more potential.

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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #17 on: 16 June 2014, 04:19 »
The only reason is the power of the VR6. The noise is good too. I drive a 14 plate VRS diesel DSG with 184bhp and want to get similar power from my 16V. I have put on a ported throttle body and induction kit but there isn't a huge difference. I don't want to destroy a perfectly good 16v engine by over modding it when I can drop a vr6 lump and mod that. Am I nuts or does it sound logical?

Ported throttle body alone without headwork etc will not give you extra

performance and an induction kit will certainly not.

Lighten and balance the flywheel,  chip the ecu,  sports stainless steel exhaust and

modified airbox with k&n filter and cold air feed will sort out the breathing etc and

add a bit of hp

Fully poly bush and Eibach arbs will sort the handling out along with some team

dynamic pro race 1.2s and some decent rubber.

You then can go down the lines of getting the cylinder head gas flowed with manifold

to match and high lift cams but that is quite expensive if done right.

How deep are your pockets? Reconditioned gear box with 3.94 fd?

Sort the handling, brakes, gearing and do the basic breathing mods first

before you go chasing hp on expensive engine mods.

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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #18 on: 16 June 2014, 05:22 »
You need cams, vernier pulley, map and rr set up.
Fully ported intake, head and exhaust to get a good 175+ on a 16v.
A VR gives you this but a lot of weight up front.
The 1.8t Gives You More For Your Money which is Why nobody bothers With VR or schrick cams anymore.
Shame as its fun to tinker

I agree it is a shame. I am still in the tinkering game, just doing it wisely :cool:

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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #19 on: 16 June 2014, 08:12 »
All those mods sound mad expensive. I would rather put that plus the cost of the car and buy a power house.