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Offline GTI7me

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Re: Tramping - any long term affects?
« Reply #10 on: 13 January 2014, 13:00 »
I too have also experienced tramping with the Bridgestones whether it is wet or not.

However, i have found there traction in terms of lateral load pretty impressive. No worse than any other tyres previously used. Especially once up to temperature.

I do agree though, traction under acceleration is poor. Braking performance seems good though.

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Offline GrahamFR

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Re: Tramping - any long term affects?
« Reply #11 on: 13 January 2014, 13:23 »
I too have also experienced tramping with the Bridgestones whether it is wet or not.

However, i have found there traction in terms of lateral load pretty impressive. No worse than any other tyres previously used. Especially once up to temperature.

I do agree though, traction under acceleration is poor. Braking performance seems good though.

J

I'll second this, very confident in the car once its moving and i have tried to drift a bit on wet roundabout and its remained firmly planted. Just getting it going is an issue
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Re: Tramping - any long term affects?
« Reply #12 on: 13 January 2014, 13:37 »
If provoked the GTI will drift on a roundabout. It requires a good chuck in to the apex and then a big lift off the throttle. The back came round nicely, although was nice and predictable. Apply some more throttle and everything comes back in line nicely.

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Re: Tramping - any long term affects?
« Reply #13 on: 13 January 2014, 13:42 »
If provoked the GTI will drift on a roundabout. It requires a good chuck in to the apex and then a big lift off the throttle. The back came round nicely, although was nice and predictable. Apply some more throttle and everything comes back in line nicely.

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Oh im sure it has its limits but you have to be pushing very hard to pass them is all i mean
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Re: Tramping - any long term affects?
« Reply #14 on: 13 January 2014, 13:47 »
The Bridgestones are possibly the most sensitive  tyres I've come across to carcass/tread temperature (as I've stated my experience with them is on the g/f's 120d M-Sport) and I've driven plenty of cars and karts with slicks and semi-slicks (which are typically seen as quite bad in this regard).

The Bridgestones are certainly poor when cold for traction but also, and for me worse, feel. The initial temperature issue is fairly short lived (only a mile or two) but the feel thing (which I assume is down carcass temperature) seems to last much longer and is there almost all the time in the wet.
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Re: Tramping - any long term affects?
« Reply #15 on: 13 January 2014, 17:37 »
You can stop your car "tramping". Just switch off the ASR...

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Re: Tramping - any long term affects?
« Reply #16 on: 13 January 2014, 19:26 »
You can stop your car "tramping". Just switch off the ASR...

But won't wheel spinning cause more damage to the car? Also can you switch this to sport mode separately? Or is it in sport mode? Sure I've seen something in the menus
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Re: Tramping - any long term affects?
« Reply #17 on: 13 January 2014, 20:35 »
It would be nice to get a new car and drive it how it is exactly advertised without the need for disabling or enabling features.

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Re: Tramping - any long term affects?
« Reply #18 on: 13 January 2014, 20:37 »
But then we'd have no buttons to push :smiley:
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Re: Tramping - any long term affects?
« Reply #19 on: 14 January 2014, 08:57 »
You can stop your car "tramping". Just switch off the ASR...

But won't wheel spinning cause more damage to the car? Also can you switch this to sport mode separately? Or is it in sport mode? Sure I've seen something in the menus

No, because it is the shock loading of tramping that would cause most of the damage.

There must be something different with my car... it doesn't tramp, it appears to have decent traction in both wet and dry...
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