Car won't start...PLEASE don't move : (

[AlanMK216v]

Right guys here's the story...

Car was running crap and found that the O ring had gone in the dizzy and it had been seeping through it for god knows how long..I've recently been away for 2 weeks and decided to sort it once i got back.Now the car strated fine when i got back.

So i decided to order a new dizzy/cap/HT leads and plugs.I fitted them all yesterday and tried to start the car but it would'nt start.I got the order of the leads off here to make sure that was right 1,3,4,2 with 1 on the bottom of the dizzy and the rest running clockwise around.Then after trying a few times i left it till today.My mate in work thought it might be the battery not having enough charge so i just bought a new one.

Now it has a spark but still won't turn over!! I seen the petrol was also low so put some in but it's still the same..I can also smell petrol after a stop trying.

It sort of cranks but can't quite get there! Sort of like i have the leads in the wrong order..i can also here a clunking sound somtimes when it's trying..

It is pissing me off now after spending the near £250 on it so PLEASE can somone recomend somthing??

I have also cleaned out the ISV and the airbox and just about all the pipes i could.I have also tested most of the connections and all seems fine.

[kniterider]

youll need to make sure the dizzy is set in the correct position, if it aint the timing will be out and it wont start/run

best bet is to use a strobe light, and check the timing, or get a mate to crank the car over whilst the dizzy is loose, try turning it clockwise and anti clock wise and hopefully at some point it will fire up, if it does lock it off where it is and get the timing checked/sorted asap, pref on a kypton tune or rolling road, if you have a strobe light you can do this roughly your self!!

 

if it aint that then double chack the lead set up...

[Mr Blue]

on my 8v the leads go like this on the dizzy cap....   1, 4 ,2 ,3 clockwise. with number 1 at the top.

i know yours is a 16v but just thought ill post

[kniterider]

i always though 4 cylinder engines fired in the 1-3-4-2 configuration... well thats what i was always taught when i was at college many many years ago doing me motor mechanics stuff for 2 years... lol

i think all 4 cylinder engines ive worked on have run the same way too??

 

[Mr Blue]

i just put mine on the 1-3-4-2 and it missfired bigtime. Ill just leave it how it was

[AlanMK216v]

How do i know the rotor arm is in the right position then?

I think this might be the problem!

[kniterider]

well off the top off my head.....

if you can see the timing marks on your cranshaft pulley, when there at the top at '0' then that tdc (top dead center) for cylinder number 1,  but you have to make sure this is at the compression stroke (all valves closed on no1 cylinder) then your rotor arm should be facing in a certain direction, follow this direction when you put the dizzy cap on and follow it through the out put hole of where the rotor arm is facing, the lead you connect to this should then goto no1 cylinder spark plug, then follow the rest in an anti clock wise direction (as 16v dizzy on opposite end of cam shaft there fore turning opposite way) in the 1-4-3-2- configuration and hopefully it should go, how ever if your timing is too far out you wont get it to run as the ignition will be to far retarded or advanced

hope it dosnt sound too complicated!!!

 

[AlanMK216v]

Errrrrrrrrrrr it is a bit to be honest mate but thanks for helping! I might get a mobile tuner out tommorow seeing as i was going to get one to sort the timing out after i got it running anyway.

[kniterider]

forgot to add, if you cant see the timing marks on your cranshaft pulley some times theres a rubber cap on your gearbox/clutch housing, this is normall green i think remove this and you can see a mark when the fly wheel gets cylinder no1 to tdc, but this maynot be in the compression stage, pending on how the head timing has been set, it could either be in compression position or at the end of the exhaust stoke (blowing waste fumes out) this is what you need to determine!!, its one or the other!!, if you can see any timing marks at either end, remove no1 spark plug, and instert a soft rod (as rude as it sounds) of either plastic or wood, turn the crank till the rod is as high as it goes, then the piston is as near as dam it at tdc, if your dizzy rotor arm is pointing to the lead on the cap that would lead to no1 spark plug then hopefully your nearly there... if not rotate the crank a further 360 dgrees till is is pointing to no1 lead, i know it sounds complicated but when your there doing it it really isnt that hard to figure out!!

 

[kniterider]

if i was nearer id pop and have look for yas mate!! tis hard to offer advice over the net!!

when you fitted your new dizzy it shoudl have only fitted in one way (the moving shaft) so shouldnt be too far out, so im guessing its just a leads/timign prob youve got...